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After the Max 8 crashes and fixes, I believed the Max became the most scrutinized plane flying, and thus the safest. Now due to Alaska, I believe I am wrong. Ai

After the Max 8 crashes and fixes, I believed the Max became the most scrutinized plane flying, and thus the safest. Now due to Alaska, I believe I am wrong. Airbus, I hope you’re better - or at least that you’re bad in non-critical ways.

wkat4242 3y ago
Airbus has many of the same flaws. Look at the pictures of the A350 paint from Qatar. It's not so much the paint flaking that bothers me, but the way Airbus went out of their way to dismiss Qatar airlines' concerns as irrelevant to safety. When there's this much flaking it can't be considered non safety critical anymore. In many cases a rough undersurface was exposed and an airplane hull is much more efficient when smooth. Also some of the flakes will end up in the engines or sensors. Really that was not a good show from airbus.
- aaomidi 3y ago
  Enshitification
- Glawen 3y ago
  Well, that's the Qatar side of the story. Only qatari regulators decided it was a safety issue, no other regulator deemed it a threat. The decision was coincidentally taken at the height of COVID when noone was flying (2021). It was obvious that Qatar Airways wanted Airbus to pay for it's non flying fleet while patiently waiting for the market to recover. Airbus couldn't allow such a precedent to happen.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Look at the pics though. That's not ok however they spin it. Unless it's pure neglect but airbus didn't claim that either.
    - Glawen 3y ago
      I saw the picture, I agree it is not nice, but other airlines facing the same issue simply sent their a350 to Toulouse to be repainted by Airbus under warranty. It seems Qatar Airways didn't accept this proposition. See https://simpleflying.com/qatar-airbus-a350-paint-conflict-timeline/ https://simpleflying.com/qatar-airbus-a350-paint-conflict-ti...
delfinom 3y ago
Personal engineering experiences, Boeing accepts QA reports from vendors without reading them. Airbus reviews similar reports and challenges the tiniest thing. Tis one of the many reasons I fly Airbus.
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wkat4242 3y ago

Airbus has many of the same flaws. Look at the pictures of the A350 paint from Qatar. It's not so much the paint flaking that bothers me, but the way Airbus went out of their way to dismiss Qatar airlines' concerns as irrelevant to safety. When there's this much flaking it can't be considered non safety critical anymore. In many cases a rough undersurface was exposed and an airplane hull is much more efficient when smooth. Also some of the flakes will end up in the engines or sensors. Really that was not a good show from airbus.

aaomidi 3y ago
Enshitification
Glawen 3y ago
Well, that's the Qatar side of the story. Only qatari regulators decided it was a safety issue, no other regulator deemed it a threat. The decision was coincidentally taken at the height of COVID when noone was flying (2021). It was obvious that Qatar Airways wanted Airbus to pay for it's non flying fleet while patiently waiting for the market to recover. Airbus couldn't allow such a precedent to happen.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Look at the pics though. That's not ok however they spin it. Unless it's pure neglect but airbus didn't claim that either.
  - Glawen 3y ago
    I saw the picture, I agree it is not nice, but other airlines facing the same issue simply sent their a350 to Toulouse to be repainted by Airbus under warranty. It seems Qatar Airways didn't accept this proposition. See https://simpleflying.com/qatar-airbus-a350-paint-conflict-timeline/ https://simpleflying.com/qatar-airbus-a350-paint-conflict-ti...

delfinom 3y ago

Personal engineering experiences, Boeing accepts QA reports from vendors without reading them. Airbus reviews similar reports and challenges the tiniest thing. Tis one of the many reasons I fly Airbus.

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