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The counterpoint is why spend so much effort language policing others words? There is no need to force this change, and it just causes needless consternation. U

by vsnf 3y ago

The counterpoint is why spend so much effort language policing others words? There is no need to force this change, and it just causes needless consternation. Use allowlist if you must but don’t force your change on me for the sake of your own sensibilities.

lwhi 3y ago
There's a logical reason for this. Our language was formed at a time where racism was more endemic. We now live in a society that endeavours to be less racist; but language hasn't caught up. .. what's your argument for not doing this?
- Hamuko 3y ago
  Doesn't the term "blacklist" date back to medieval England, where it referred to the black book where the names of sinners were added?
  - lwhi 3y ago
    Ultimately, we can only guess. The fact that there are more negative associations with 'black' in our language than 'white' seems more of a feature than a coincidence.
    - trealira 3y ago
      You should read the book Black: The History of a Color by Michel Pastoureau. He analyzes the history of symbolism using the color black in Europe.
      - lwhi 3y ago
        Looks interesting! I guess I still figure small things we can do to help redress the balance in terms of celebrating (rather than disparaging) blackness are worthwhile.
- vsnf 3y ago
  You’re clearly passionate about this cause, and while I respect your dedication to equality I wish you’d find a different target to redirect your vigor towards. Policing my language is not a way to win friends, it’s a way to force your view on me. I find this offensive. A sibling commenter mentioned that you’re going to cause others to dig in their heels, and I agree with them. Your zealotry in demanding that I change my speech is overbearing and likely damaging to your cause. I also notice you’ve twice called other posters cowards, asserted that another should “educate themselves”, and said that you don’t have time for people who “aren’t interested in making the world a better place”, defined as such, of course, by you. Not only are you deciding for others how they should be thinking and speaking, you’re also aggressive about it. I’d encourage you to re-assess your authoritarian attitude. There are better venues to creating a more equal society than to force others to speak in your preferred manner just because you don’t like certain words.
  - lwhi 3y ago
    If you were paying attention you'd notice I called the same poster a coward, for the same reason each time. I'm always astounded why people who are grievously offended—by being asked to be more considerate of people who have a harder time than them—are unable to justify their point of view. Maybe it's because there's little reason other than wanting to be seen as correct?

by vsnf 3y ago

lwhi 3y ago

There's a logical reason for this. Our language was formed at a time where racism was more endemic. We now live in a society that endeavours to be less racist; but language hasn't caught up. .. what's your argument for not doing this?

Hamuko 3y ago
Doesn't the term "blacklist" date back to medieval England, where it referred to the black book where the names of sinners were added?
- lwhi 3y ago
  Ultimately, we can only guess. The fact that there are more negative associations with 'black' in our language than 'white' seems more of a feature than a coincidence.
  - trealira 3y ago
    You should read the book Black: The History of a Color by Michel Pastoureau. He analyzes the history of symbolism using the color black in Europe.
    - lwhi 3y ago
      Looks interesting! I guess I still figure small things we can do to help redress the balance in terms of celebrating (rather than disparaging) blackness are worthwhile.
vsnf 3y ago
You’re clearly passionate about this cause, and while I respect your dedication to equality I wish you’d find a different target to redirect your vigor towards. Policing my language is not a way to win friends, it’s a way to force your view on me. I find this offensive. A sibling commenter mentioned that you’re going to cause others to dig in their heels, and I agree with them. Your zealotry in demanding that I change my speech is overbearing and likely damaging to your cause. I also notice you’ve twice called other posters cowards, asserted that another should “educate themselves”, and said that you don’t have time for people who “aren’t interested in making the world a better place”, defined as such, of course, by you. Not only are you deciding for others how they should be thinking and speaking, you’re also aggressive about it. I’d encourage you to re-assess your authoritarian attitude. There are better venues to creating a more equal society than to force others to speak in your preferred manner just because you don’t like certain words.
- lwhi 3y ago
  If you were paying attention you'd notice I called the same poster a coward, for the same reason each time. I'm always astounded why people who are grievously offended—by being asked to be more considerate of people who have a harder time than them—are unable to justify their point of view. Maybe it's because there's little reason other than wanting to be seen as correct?