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I do not think most things are "theoretically knowable", since knowledge is comprised of finite concepts conjoined in finite ways; and most of reality is uncomp
by mjburgess 3y ago
I do not think most things are "theoretically knowable", since knowledge is comprised of finite concepts conjoined in finite ways; and most of reality is uncomputable.
You cannot know the state of the climate, even in principle.
This is what the commenter was alluding to when they said,
> there is some information-theoretic barrier for us to understand
So the commenter can both maintain there are theoretical barriers to the possibility of all kinds of knowledge, which is outside of "knowable physics" without having any sort of dualistic view that this unknownable stuff is immaterial.
So to be "outside of physics" is not coextensive with being "immaterial".
You might have meant that, but it is this very conflation which has to be undone to understand OP's point
- calf 3y agoBut is general uncomputability the OP's argument? They were just saying they had a gut feeling there is some "information-theoretic barrier" preventing AGI construction. Yet we can understand a lot about Earth's weather, and even do things to affect the weather, despite climate systems being uncomputable, strictly speaking.