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> with total disrespect for the user experience Be careful not to confuse user experience with UI aesthetics and pages with padding.

Swenrekcah 3y ago
The site where they put up this blogpost has less respect for user experience than the simple and functional website they called ugly.
- vdaea 3y ago
  I can't even read the whole post without registering and he has the nerve of calling other websites disrespectful.
  - Lex-2008 3y ago
    recently I learned that reading the article through archive.is shows the whole content: https://archive.is/Eea8R https://archive.is/Eea8R
    - roter 3y ago
      And a beautiful little extension [0] (I use the Firefox one) to click when you visit a page that you want to Archive.is or Wayback. [0] https://github.com/dessant/web-archives https://github.com/dessant/web-archives
      - palmfacehn 3y ago
        In FF reader mode works fine without any 3rd party extensions.
- jcpst 3y ago
  I thought what they called ugly was pretty clean.
unnouinceput 3y ago
Exactly my point as well when I went to the site. Fast, click here, uncheck there, kaboom, instant change. No gazillion nested divs, precisely to the point of what it says it does. I guess Peter Voica, the article's author, cannot comprehend pages without having blank spaces at edges.
Gualdrapo 3y ago
I know the HN hivemind despises white space and padding and medium width paragraphs and deem them unneccessary and atrocious for some reason, but the design on the site is not that "functional" - on a window with width of 1035px or less, the main table moves all the way down below the filter column - I can imagine someone opening this with a tablet or something like that for the first time wondering where are all the articles until they scroll all the way down.
- Robotbeat 3y ago
  It works fine in landscape orientation on an iPhone SE if you zoom out to 50%. I prefer to view websites like this as if my phone was a desktop, and I tend to hate it when that desire is fought by aggressive attempts to reflow everything into a “mobile” format with no way around it. So I think it’s better than many modern websites as far as usability goes.
  - Arn_Thor 3y ago
    I’m sorry but I’m just not going to switch off my orientation lock and turn my phone sideways just for a website to “work fine”. It’s 2024. I expect better
    - jcpst 3y ago
      lol! I only type that when something literally makes me laugh out loud. Thank you, this comment made my morning.
      - jcpst 3y ago
        Apologies if this is wasn’t a valuable comment. Earlier it didn’t occur to me that the comment about having to turn their phone sideways might not be sarcasm.
    - marginalia_nu 3y ago
      There's a lot of content you're just not going to be able to partake in then. Tables with more than 3 columns more or less just don't work in portrait mode.
spaceman_2020 3y ago
If you really want to learn good modern UI design from a business perspective, you need to look at websites that absolutely need to retain users and depend on high conversions to survive. Example: Stake.com. Somehow manages to show a ton of information without feeling slow or sluggish. Isn’t pretty but has basic respect for legibility and whitespace.
nayuki 3y ago
> He created a website that looks like it was made in HTML with total disrespect for the user experience I find that the filtering on diskprices.com works way faster than the typical search filters on Newegg, Canada Computers, and pretty much every e-commerce site I've ever used. Disk Prices is definitely respecting my user experience by being snappy and not wasting CPU cycles and network round trips.

Swenrekcah 3y ago

The site where they put up this blogpost has less respect for user experience than the simple and functional website they called ugly.

vdaea 3y ago
I can't even read the whole post without registering and he has the nerve of calling other websites disrespectful.
- Lex-2008 3y ago
  recently I learned that reading the article through archive.is shows the whole content: https://archive.is/Eea8R https://archive.is/Eea8R
  - roter 3y ago
    And a beautiful little extension [0] (I use the Firefox one) to click when you visit a page that you want to Archive.is or Wayback. [0] https://github.com/dessant/web-archives https://github.com/dessant/web-archives
    - palmfacehn 3y ago
      In FF reader mode works fine without any 3rd party extensions.
jcpst 3y ago
I thought what they called ugly was pretty clean.

unnouinceput 3y ago

Exactly my point as well when I went to the site. Fast, click here, uncheck there, kaboom, instant change. No gazillion nested divs, precisely to the point of what it says it does. I guess Peter Voica, the article's author, cannot comprehend pages without having blank spaces at edges.

Gualdrapo 3y ago

I know the HN hivemind despises white space and padding and medium width paragraphs and deem them unneccessary and atrocious for some reason, but the design on the site is not that "functional" - on a window with width of 1035px or less, the main table moves all the way down below the filter column - I can imagine someone opening this with a tablet or something like that for the first time wondering where are all the articles until they scroll all the way down.

Robotbeat 3y ago
It works fine in landscape orientation on an iPhone SE if you zoom out to 50%. I prefer to view websites like this as if my phone was a desktop, and I tend to hate it when that desire is fought by aggressive attempts to reflow everything into a “mobile” format with no way around it. So I think it’s better than many modern websites as far as usability goes.
- Arn_Thor 3y ago
  I’m sorry but I’m just not going to switch off my orientation lock and turn my phone sideways just for a website to “work fine”. It’s 2024. I expect better
  - jcpst 3y ago
    lol! I only type that when something literally makes me laugh out loud. Thank you, this comment made my morning.
    - jcpst 3y ago
      Apologies if this is wasn’t a valuable comment. Earlier it didn’t occur to me that the comment about having to turn their phone sideways might not be sarcasm.
  - marginalia_nu 3y ago
    There's a lot of content you're just not going to be able to partake in then. Tables with more than 3 columns more or less just don't work in portrait mode.

spaceman_2020 3y ago

If you really want to learn good modern UI design from a business perspective, you need to look at websites that absolutely need to retain users and depend on high conversions to survive. Example: Stake.com. Somehow manages to show a ton of information without feeling slow or sluggish. Isn’t pretty but has basic respect for legibility and whitespace.

nayuki 3y ago

> He created a website that looks like it was made in HTML with total disrespect for the user experience I find that the filtering on diskprices.com works way faster than the typical search filters on Newegg, Canada Computers, and pretty much every e-commerce site I've ever used. Disk Prices is definitely respecting my user experience by being snappy and not wasting CPU cycles and network round trips.