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There must be a whitelist process though: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bastard&i=stripbooks https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bastard&i=stripbooks
by flir 3y ago
There must be a whitelist process though: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bastard&i=stripbooks https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bastard&i=stripbooks
- lwhi 3y ago[flagged]
- zilti 3y ago[flagged]
- flir 3y agoIf I see you using allowlist (and denylist?), I promise not to correct you. That way we can all just rub along peacefully. (Edit: flagged? Jeez. I upvoted you).
- lwhi 3y agoFor the record I didn't flag you. However your point is null and void.
- flir 3y agoSorry, I didn't think you did. I didn't think you should have been flagged. Look, I don't think you're wrong, I just think going around correcting each other's language is an exhausting distraction from things that matter. Normally that kind of microaggression would have been water off a duck's back. I'm just having an off day and feeling sarcastic. Apologies.
- lwhi 3y agoFair enough, I do see your point .. I just figure there are a lot of small things we can all do that cost virtually nothing that can help make the world a bit more equitable.
- flir 3y agoI see yours (from another post) too. I'll try to stick to drab, grey language in formal communication. After all, "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down", and I've got no desire to paint a target on my back. Out of curiosity, how would we reword the verb form? Eg "Language whitewashing squicks me out"
- lwhi 3y agoWhy would you need to? .. it relates to the act of washing white paint over something. There's no logical reason for a negative list to be known as a 'blacklist' as far as I can tell? Ultimately, I don't think adjusting language is more dull or drab that using the term blacklist. But no one likes being corrected, and no one likes being told what to do. I get that .. but I honestly didn't mean to cause offence to you.
- flir 3y agoNo offence, I swear! Just a slight toothache and an overactive sense of saracsm here. But I am a bit lost now. I thought we were trying to avoid colour-terms-that-are-also-race-terms in language. Whitewashing ok, whitelist bad?
- lwhi 3y agoI understood the point you made, but I think you're maybe being a little deliberately obtuse (due to your tooth ache perhaps). Have a great day. Edit: I explained my reasoning here: > Why would you need to? .. it relates to the act of washing white paint over something. > There's no logical reason for a negative list to be known as a 'blacklist' as far as I can tell?
- flir 3y agoLook, you're free to believe that. But I promise you I did not expect you to say whitewashing was ok. That came completely out of left field for me.
- Fbnkigffb66tfbj 3y ago[flagged]
- akie 3y agoOverly aggressive denials of simple requests ("please use another word") just make me wonder why you are so upset about it? Blacklist/whitelist DO reinforce the notion that black = bad and white = good, so what's the deal with using a different word? I truly don't understand why people would get upset by simple requests like that.
- meepmorp 3y agoI think Niemöller said it best: > First they came for the n-word...
- Fbnkigffb66tfbj 3y agoBecause requests like that are just the tip of the iceberg. I think it's a reasonable response to resist groups who are trying to aggressively effect cultural change in ways with which I disagree. And as the other commentor said, I won't complain about whatever terminology you use when you write or speak, but I expect the same respect in return.
- meepmorp 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39066948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39066948
- lwhi 3y agoYou'll hide behind a throwaway account though. If you disagree with making the world a better place in small ways that don't actually affect you, I have no time for you.
- Snow_Falls 3y agoSlippery slope arguments are considered a fallacy for a reason.