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If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp, by going to the physical shows and buying merch, ordering physical copies of their
by portaouflop 3y ago
If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp, by going to the physical shows and buying merch, ordering physical copies of their music at the label, patreon, or whatever form of direct support they have set up.
Spotify is just leeching of the culture and as drew pointed out you will be 10000 times more effective if you use one of those options.
Spotify is more or less just a signal booster nowadays - because you have to be on there since everyone uses it.
I for one would never put my music on Spotify, even if I get what like 20$ out of it, what a horrible company and service.
- apwell23 3y ago> If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp Not everyone is on bandcamp. Seems like some sort of north american website.
- portaouflop 3y agoI listed four other concrete options and closed with “or whatever other direct support method they have set up” — I assure you that every artist that wants to make money will have set up _something_ besides Spotify since it’s practically impossible to make money through them.
- apwell23 3y ago> I assure you that every artist that wants to make money will have set up _something_ besides Spotify since it’s practically impossible to make money through them. you are wrong in your assurances( eg: i am listening to this on spotify at the moment Odeon Yılları Album by Nesrin Sipahi ) and your "other options" have nothing to do with how you listen to their music. Ppl listening on spotify also go to concerts they are not mutually exclusive.
- morelisp 3y agoAre you saying Nesrin Sipahi, who received a personal award from the president, has nothing but Spotify?
- apwell23 3y agoNo idea who that artist is. It something spotify recommended and I am into it. I didn't find that artist on bandcamp or any other non-streaming platforms. only on spotify, youtube, apple music. Are they not equivalent, didn't realize you were making a point specifically about spotify. And yes I will surely go to that artist concert if they are in my area. Me listening to on spotify has nothing to do with it. If anything I would've never found that music if it wasn't for spotify.
- portaouflop 3y agoNesrin Sipahi is a far cry from a small indie artist that relies on support by their fan base. And there are many options to buy her music as physical copies directly from her labels. Of course it’s fine to use Spotify to listen to music and find new artists - I’m saying the worst way to pay artists that rely on their fan base for income.
- apwell23 3y ago> Nesrin Sipahi is a far cry from a small indie artist that relies on support by their fan base. Who said this though? This is what you originally said. > If you care about the artist here pay them directly either through bandcamp I responded to this > I assure you that every artist that wants to make money will have set up _something_ Why did you bring 'far cry from a small indie artist ' into the picture all of sudden when you said 'every' in original comment. Your original comment was about 'small indie artist' only ? You should've said 'small indie artist will always set up something' if you meant that. agree that might be true for small artists.
- portaouflop 3y agoOf course a celebrated artist with a 50+ year career that is a national icon won’t be reliant on digital distribution… I think that would be obvious to anyone that wants to have a conversation in good faith.
- morelisp 3y agoPlease connect to reality.
- portaouflop 3y agoIf that implies connecting to Spotify, no thanks. If your reality is based on catering to VC funded tech companies I pity you.
- morelisp 3y agoRead harder.
- marcomourao 3y agoBandcamp is widely used all over the world. My band made 6 times more money from Bandcamp than from all the streaming sites combined. People from all over Europe, USA, Canada and Australia bought our music.
- apwell23 3y ago>Bandcamp is widely used in all over the world. Not really.
- marcomourao 3y agoMy opinion is based on the stats Bandcamp provides me. Care to elaborate on why you proclaim otherwise?
- apwell23 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39066807 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39066807 curious how do ppl discover your band on bandcamp?
- marcomourao 3y agoThrough Bandcamp itself, social media, music blogs...
- apwell23 3y agodoes bandcamp give you this info?
- marcomourao 3y agoYes. The free version gives you basic stats, the pro version gives you detailed stats.
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- tourmalinetaco 3y agoSo, instead of interfacing with the actual argument (which is that Spotify pays almost nothing and if you really want to support an artist you actually pay them directly), you decide to zero in that one singular platform of many is not available where you think it should be? If you didn’t want to support artists you can just say so and cut out the gymnastics.
- apwell23 3y agoi support artists in a lot of ways. spotify introduced me to many new artists and told me about their concerts in my area > If you didn’t want to support artists you can just say so and cut out the gymnastics. classic projection
- zelphirkalt 3y agoAnd what is spotify? Seriously, I would rather visit Bandcamp a 100 times than use Spotify, even though the website player of Bandcamp sucks and I need a user script to regulate the volume of it.