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15 points by zaiste 14y ago

Hello guys, I wanted to get your feedback on my recent project : it aims to unify Vim configuration by aggregating some common plugins in order to provide an easy-to-use « package ». It's called vimified : https://github.com/zaiste/vimified The idea was to make it simpler than Janus (e.g. vundle instead of submodules et al.); it is also somehow similar to spf13-vim. What do you think? Thanks!

strager 14y ago
How does boot time compare to stock/distro Vim?
solutionyogi 14y ago
Why should I choose vimified over spf13-vim? [Especially because I am on Windows and I don't see any details about Windows support.] Also, why should I install plugins about languages which I don't care?
- zaiste 14y ago
  At the moment spf13-vim is, indeed, more feature-rich. There is also no Windows support yet. I'll provide a way to easily select plugin sets for a specific language/technology. Thanks for your feedback !
vectorpush 14y ago
I wish each plugin listed had a descriptive paragraph instead of just a one liner. I've meticulously curated my vimrc to accommodate my particular work-flow and visual preferences, so I'm pretty hesitant to introduce a bunch of new plugins and configurations without knowing exactly what is happening (as many of the plugins go unused if I am not distinctly aware that I wanted the functionality).
- zaiste 14y ago
  OK! I'll try to improve it. Thanks!
- Vitaly 14y ago
  check out https://github.com/astrails/dotvim https://github.com/astrails/dotvim instead. pretty good readme
Calamitous 14y ago
"The Ultimate Vim Configuration" is like saying "The Ultimate Pair of Pants." No matter how hard you try, one size just doesn't fit all. That having been said, projects like this and Janus are definitely a step in the right direction.
- zaiste 14y ago
  Yes, that's true! I was hoping to introduce some kind of convention, a starting point. Usually vimrc have some similarities I wanted to consolidate what seems common and eventually show how to combine it with some specific elements (a particular programming language or technology)
  - brandoncordell 14y ago
    I appreciate what you're doing. Whatever you do try not to hinder people learning vim as a core. After installing Janus, I decided that I wasn't learning Vim anymore, I was learning Janus. Getting rid of Janus and MacVim and starting off with a tiny .vimrc allowed me to actually learn Vim. It was the single best thing I did to learn Vim. Since then my .vimrc has grown pretty large (compared to what it was when I started), but it's all mine now. It fits my workflow and it's perfect.
    - zaiste 14y ago
      I partially agree with you, Janus is certainly a bit complicated and may hinder people learning vim. With vimified I wanted to keep the traditional approach but make it more powerful from the start. For example, I will try no to split vimrc into separate files, there should be always only one base file (+ folding). You get the base, a convention, but there will be certainly things to be adjusted on your own along the way. That was the idea...
karinqe 14y ago
Vim completely freezes and consumes 100% cpu right after starting up. Also, the yankring plugin has a problem with non-existant ~/.vim/tmp directory.
VeejayRampay 14y ago
I want a rewrite of vim's internals so that it can be scripted with something else than vimscript, which is, to this day, the only way to have access to all the bang vim has to offer. And that's pretty sad cause vimscript is not a very good language.
- johncoltrane 14y ago
  You can use Ruby, Python, Perl and Tcl.
johncoltrane 14y ago
Thanks for the hard work, but the only person that should decide what is or not in my .vim folder and my .vimrc is me. Also the name doesn't seem very good to me : "vimifying" something means that you make something (a browser, a PDF viewer, whatever that is "non-Vim-like") more "Vim-like". Customizing the hell out of Vim is quite the opposite.
- zaiste 14y ago
  Thanks for your feedback! I started this project to reduce friction when new members join our team. In that context « vimified » was meant to be associated with a person who gets a ready-to-use « vim bundle », but as you probably noticed I'm not a native English speaker. ;)
Vitaly 14y ago
How is this better then https://github.com/astrails/dotvim https://github.com/astrails/dotvim ? :) The readme is better and does not pretends to be ultimate, just a pretty good one ;)
asselinpaul 14y ago
How would you install this for Macvim?
odilontalk 14y ago
Great selection of plugins, keep it up !

15 points by zaiste 14y ago

strager 14y ago

How does boot time compare to stock/distro Vim?

solutionyogi 14y ago

Why should I choose vimified over spf13-vim? [Especially because I am on Windows and I don't see any details about Windows support.] Also, why should I install plugins about languages which I don't care?

zaiste 14y ago
At the moment spf13-vim is, indeed, more feature-rich. There is also no Windows support yet. I'll provide a way to easily select plugin sets for a specific language/technology. Thanks for your feedback !

vectorpush 14y ago

I wish each plugin listed had a descriptive paragraph instead of just a one liner. I've meticulously curated my vimrc to accommodate my particular work-flow and visual preferences, so I'm pretty hesitant to introduce a bunch of new plugins and configurations without knowing exactly what is happening (as many of the plugins go unused if I am not distinctly aware that I wanted the functionality).

zaiste 14y ago
OK! I'll try to improve it. Thanks!
Vitaly 14y ago
check out https://github.com/astrails/dotvim https://github.com/astrails/dotvim instead. pretty good readme

Calamitous 14y ago

"The Ultimate Vim Configuration" is like saying "The Ultimate Pair of Pants." No matter how hard you try, one size just doesn't fit all. That having been said, projects like this and Janus are definitely a step in the right direction.

zaiste 14y ago
Yes, that's true! I was hoping to introduce some kind of convention, a starting point. Usually vimrc have some similarities I wanted to consolidate what seems common and eventually show how to combine it with some specific elements (a particular programming language or technology)
- brandoncordell 14y ago
  I appreciate what you're doing. Whatever you do try not to hinder people learning vim as a core. After installing Janus, I decided that I wasn't learning Vim anymore, I was learning Janus. Getting rid of Janus and MacVim and starting off with a tiny .vimrc allowed me to actually learn Vim. It was the single best thing I did to learn Vim. Since then my .vimrc has grown pretty large (compared to what it was when I started), but it's all mine now. It fits my workflow and it's perfect.
  - zaiste 14y ago
    I partially agree with you, Janus is certainly a bit complicated and may hinder people learning vim. With vimified I wanted to keep the traditional approach but make it more powerful from the start. For example, I will try no to split vimrc into separate files, there should be always only one base file (+ folding). You get the base, a convention, but there will be certainly things to be adjusted on your own along the way. That was the idea...

karinqe 14y ago

Vim completely freezes and consumes 100% cpu right after starting up. Also, the yankring plugin has a problem with non-existant ~/.vim/tmp directory.

VeejayRampay 14y ago

I want a rewrite of vim's internals so that it can be scripted with something else than vimscript, which is, to this day, the only way to have access to all the bang vim has to offer. And that's pretty sad cause vimscript is not a very good language.

johncoltrane 14y ago
You can use Ruby, Python, Perl and Tcl.

johncoltrane 14y ago

Thanks for the hard work, but the only person that should decide what is or not in my .vim folder and my .vimrc is me. Also the name doesn't seem very good to me : "vimifying" something means that you make something (a browser, a PDF viewer, whatever that is "non-Vim-like") more "Vim-like". Customizing the hell out of Vim is quite the opposite.

zaiste 14y ago
Thanks for your feedback! I started this project to reduce friction when new members join our team. In that context « vimified » was meant to be associated with a person who gets a ready-to-use « vim bundle », but as you probably noticed I'm not a native English speaker. ;)

Vitaly 14y ago

How is this better then https://github.com/astrails/dotvim https://github.com/astrails/dotvim ? :) The readme is better and does not pretends to be ultimate, just a pretty good one ;)

asselinpaul 14y ago

How would you install this for Macvim?

odilontalk 14y ago

Great selection of plugins, keep it up !