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You are now conflating your earlier claims about immigration with statistics of asylum seekers. This might not be an important distinction to you but it is to m
by jstummbillig 3y ago
You are now conflating your earlier claims about immigration with statistics of asylum seekers. This might not be an important distinction to you but it is to me, and also an important signal, when I am having a discussion that requires a lot of good faith to begin with.
You will notice (in sofar you are willing to do so) that I was at not debating your claims about the prevalence of males among asylum seekers. That is because I do not disagree. I just don't think it's terribly important. I was just irritated by your characterisation of life in migration camps.
The earlier assessment still applies. Short sightedness aside, I fail to see how anyone can confuse immigration for not being the lesser of two issues.
- pseudo0 3y agoI just responded to how you originally framed the situation: > I understand that immigration of unskilled people is a little off from the "skilled immigration" pipe dream and less convenient, but are people really that confused about the slightly longer term and exponentially scarier cost of no immigration? In the case of Germany (and Europe more broadly) the unskilled migrants typically arrive as asylum seekers. So when we look at the data and the facts on the ground for how unskilled migrants integrate into society, and if they make a positive economic contribution or not, the population being studied will largely be asylum seekers from MENA countries. So far it has been a bit of a disaster. Sweden has done a 180 on immigration policy, Denmark has tightened its rules, Merkel tarnished her legacy with her complete mishandling of the migration crisis, etc.