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VNote: A pleasant note-taking platform
- nittanymount 3y agonice, has mac version too.
- nesarkvechnep 3y agoIt’s Electron.
- adhamsalama 3y agoIsn't QT already cross-platform?
- lf-non 3y agoThey don't use electron but they do seem to use webviews for showing the rendered output.
- swah 3y agoGood, like VSCode then ;)
- Zetobal 3y agoI would be more surprised about being Linux/windows first there is a plethora of mac only notes apps.
- hereme888 3y agoIt looks so much like Obsidian, except for the Vi.
- avoutic 3y agoYou can also enable vi editing in Obsidian. I don't think you can enable vi navigation though. I'm interested to hear what the advantage over Obsidian is?
- hammyhavoc 3y agoIt being FOSS is an advantage to some folks. Obsidian doesn't allow you to use it for business for free unless you meet specific criteria like having 2 or less employees.
- Muller20 3y agoI never understand this argument when it's used against Obsidian. First, free != FOSS. Second, while the app is closed source, Obsidian has a large open source community that develops plugins for it. Third, the format (markdown) is open, so you have much more freedom than what you have with other FOSS applications that use custom formats.
- Snow_Falls 3y agoOpen plugins are meaningless when the platform itslelf isn't open. There are also lots of markdown centric note software so its not too much of a draw for obsidian. Personally I'd never use a proprietary note app, having to switch if the company shutters is too much, at least FOSS apps can be forked. Though, I've not heard anything bad about the obsidian team, maybe they open source it if they shut down. They also don't seem like the type to rugpull their customers. But you know how many companies people have said that about.
- sesm 3y agoOpen plugins do have a meaning for many developers even if the platform itself isn't open. The meaning is: developers can easily find reference code to develop their own plugins and can easily patch open plugins when they break.
- hammyhavoc 3y agoGratis vs libre. You openly acknowledged that Obsidian isn't open source. There's lots of open source software for Windows and macOS, yet neither Windows nor macOS are open source. Strange counter-argument in which you proved my point. Name these FOSS apps that use custom formats. There's so many Obsidian-likes that are not only FOSS, but also use non-proprietary flat markdown files. It sounds like you're drinking too much of the Obsidian community Kool-Aid and trying to convince yourself of these things that simply aren't true.
- lf-non 3y agoUnlike obsidian, it doesn't appear to have a plugin system (yet?)
- account-5 3y agoI currently use zim-wiki for structured notes. It's also plain text/folder based. It doesn't use markdown though. I'm glad to see this is offline local first. I like that it can be made portable too. It seems more complicated than zim-wiki (but that might just be my knowledge of zim). I'll be taking a look. Hopefully when the pro version comes they don't restrict useful functionality.
- mikro2nd 3y agoAnother Zim-Wiki user here -- been using it for something over 5 years, now, and have yet to find anything that could replace it for me. That it doesn't use (the bloody horrible) Markdown is a feature, not a deficiency.
- account-5 3y agoI'm torn because zims markup is straight forward and simple but I use pandoc for conversion to other formats and pandocs markdown is pretty powerful
- flarg 3y agoI used Zim for over a decade but recently migrated to Obsidian because of the mobile support. Definitely a big change but I can say that after a year it has worked for me and I don't miss Zim as much as thought would.
- rubymamis 3y agoNice, but as others pointed out, this uses a webview to render the underlying text. My note-taking app, Plume[1] is written in Qt C++ and QML, without resorting to webview, rather, rendering using my own custom QML components. Plume's model is written in C++ while the view in QML, allowing for a very performant (benchmarks on the website) yet fluid experience with beautiful animations. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/ https://www.get-plume.com/
- MikusR 3y agoYour note-taking app is not released. While I appreciate that I can download and self compile the premium version of your other Notes app (for some reason my build turns out to be a glitchy buggy mess. That's probably QT being QT), Plume is not released, so is not an alternative to anything.
- rubymamis 3y ago1. Mind opening a new issue on GitHub? Would love to take a look. 2. Fair. The release is just around the corner (2 month-ish). I can send you an alpha version soon if you'd like.
- MikusR 3y ago1. That was months ago and i have also had some problems with qt6 version of qBittorrent on that system. 2. I will wait. It really looks promising. As long as you can disable that huge first capital leter, or make it only 2 lines high.
- rubymamis 3y agoThanks! The Drop Cap is optional. And yes, it adjusts based on the number of lines being rendered. Here, I've created a recording for you (the Kanban a little buggy since it's still work-in-progress): https://www.loom.com/share/b40009316f6b420b9ece15a1f99e987c https://www.loom.com/share/b40009316f6b420b9ece15a1f99e987c
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- lcof 3y agoI like the idea of not using heavy electron UIs, but really, I does not matter much nowadays, at least for me. Important features are synchronized notes, with mobile and desktop support, and syncing should be end to end encrypted. I should be able to link a note to another, include some media, and use markdown, that is easily importable/exportable. I still to this day couldn’t find a good foss alternative to Joplin with WebDAV or Joplin Server (or cloud offerings).
- ListeningPie 3y agoDo you mean encryption decryption happens locally of each individual note and only the encrypted string is stored online? How would you trust to sync the decryption keys across devices?
- lf-non 3y agoYes. Joplin supports this (although sync gets slow when the number of notes is large). Syncing the encryption keys is your responsibility. I transfer them over the wire to devices I use without sharing them with a third party service.
- lcof 3y agoNow with Joplin Server it’s getting better (compared to WebDAV), in terms of syncing speed
- calebkaiser 3y agoIf you don't require support for teams, it sounds like you might like AnyType. Think Notion, but FOSS and p2p. https://anytype.io/ https://anytype.io/
- rubymamis 3y agoIt's not FOSS, it's source-available[1]. [1] https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md
- CrypticShift 3y agoThis is "Chinese". I personally don't mind, especially if it is open source. But I've seen another China (and electron) based note-taking app vilified for this reason. FYI It is Siyuan [1]. What is unique about it is the logseq-like block-level granularity (ref/embed/query) and (soon) the notion-like databases. [1] https://github.com/siyuan-note/siyuan https://github.com/siyuan-note/siyuan
- replwoacause 3y agoGenuinely curious…I get the trepidation of using a closed source product from China but if the code is open for all to inspect, what is the concern then?
- rchaud 3y agoCognitive dissonance. We're used to the Silicon Valley model of closed-source subscription apps (Dropbox) that silently opt-in your data into their AI training models. https://nitter.net/Werner/status/1734890651378975007 https://nitter.net/Werner/status/1734890651378975007
- swah 3y agoDo you build those yourself or just go to the Releases tab on Github?
- replwoacause 3y agoReleases tab
- Snow_Falls 3y agoIt would be trivially easy to fake a free github account as being from the US. Not hiding the fact that they're Chinese makes me trust them more.
- rchaud 3y agoI think CN intelligence agencies set their espionage sights a bit higher than "generic outliner app" users.
- clbrmbr 3y agoWhat is note-taking exactly? Like notes from meetings, or like a replacement for a journal, or? Why not just use a text editor? I’ve been operating for years without a “note-taking” solution. What am I missing?
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- raxits 3y agoSame here but I have seen people are/were using evernote, Microsoft one note etc for 1. Note sync across devices 2. Easy search 3. As to-do list, read/use it in future 4. Capture audio/video/images from mobile 5. Store visiting card etc
- CrypticShift 3y agoTo use this app's (peculiar) descriptor, it is more "pleasant" for those who deal with a lot of text "information". This includes (but is not limited to) students, academics.... At the core level, it is about using many "doc files" without juggling between multiple windows, file managers, etc. Then, in addition, some may feel the (real?) need for other features. You can look at this extensive list [1] and see if you feel you are "missing" any of them, although feelings could be deceptive :) [1] https://noteapps.info/features https://noteapps.info/features
- rchaud 3y agoIMO, notes are anything that's worth writing down. I have cheatsheets full of Excel formulas for complex transformations. Without it, I'd be forced to look up the ad-ridden website I originally pulled it from, on a work computer that doesn't have an adblocker. Same goes for stuff I do rarely enough that I need to look up instructions each time. For example, I don't deploy websites except for personal use, so I usually need to re-read Digital Ocean docs to set up my stack on a Linux VM, assign SFTP users etc. Those articles are extremely long and full of related page links. Once I have my core setup steps down, I can just put those into my note. Besides that, I have notes with images for clothes shopping. Instead of wasting time browsing in-store, I can quickly see whether they have any of the 10-12 types of clothing I usually buy (tops, bottoms, shoes, 4 subcategories for each).
- dang 3y agoRelated: VNote, an open source markdown note-taking app with Wiki page - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23547056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23547056 - June 2020 (1 comment) Show HN: Viki, a simple Wiki page in Markdown from notebook of VNote - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18556938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18556938 - Nov 2018 (1 comment) Show HN: VNote 2.0 – PlantUML editing via Preview Tunnel - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18049100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18049100 - Sept 2018 (9 comments) Show HN: VNote, a fresh Markdown note-taking app - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16149821 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16149821 - Jan 2018 (86 comments)
- newshackr 3y agoCurious how this compares to obsidian