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The quote was given in 12/07. Back then, Verizon's network was largely made with BPON nodes (655mbit down, 155mbit up to each node). It really couldn't handle 1

by Zev 18y ago

The quote was given in 12/07. Back then, Verizon's network was largely made with BPON nodes (655mbit down, 155mbit up to each node). It really couldn't handle 100mbit at the time. Since then, the FiOS network's been getting GPON upgrades (2.44gbit down, 1.22gbit up to each node), and is easily capable of handling 100mbit to the home. Times change and some companies really do upgrade equipment instead of overselling lines. Rich and poor has nothing to do with it at all. Population does. All I'm saying is to get the service to the largest number of people first - which happens to be urban areas. This way, there's more equipment being made and the techs have more practice doing said installations which will speed things up. Which then goes and brings the cost down and makes it cheaper to bring services out to more rural areas. Monticello, MN was sued by TDS Telecom, not Verizon. You can't blame telco x for what telco y does when they're unrelated to each other beyond being telco's. When did I say America was too big to wire up? Don't put words into my mouth. All I'm saying is that it costs more to run fiber one or two miles to a house then it does to run fiber ten or twenty miles. It's not hard to build a network, but it takes time and is expensive. Comcast, Optimum Online, Time Warner, etc. They're cable companies that started in on telco. Verizon's the other way around - a telco that started in on cable. Which happened right around the time they started laying Fiber out for the first time. Yes, we should be outraged at the shit that some of the companies do. But please don't lump every company into your bad egg basket just because a majority of them suck. Now, if you want to be outraged at the fact that because the lines are fiber and not copper, Verizon doesn't have to share them anymore, go for it. If you want to be outraged at what Verizon is doing with Verizon Wireless caps, feel free to be. You'll be correct to be pissed off. But that's got nothing to do with FiOS.

jmtame 18y ago
Yeah, I'm sorry but I think every point I made went right over your head. I said give municipalities the right to build their own networks, and you say "well, one of the nation's largest phone companies sued Monticello, not Verizon. Therefore, your claims against Verizon are unwarranted." What? And then you said "it's expensive, and it takes time." Well yeah, that's pretty much a given. That's why you let municipalities do it instead of suing them when they try. That's why we handed Verizon $70 billion--to do exactly that. That's what we expect out of a company like AT&T who generates $120 billion in annual revenue. They should have saw this coming, and instead of upgrading their crap network, they want to tell us that "we don't have the bandwidth to support your YouTube and Hulu habits, therefore, we shall charge you even more!" Rich and poor has everything to do with it. Look up redlining and HR 5252. This is all about money, you'd be stupid to argue that it's not.

by Zev 18y ago

jmtame 18y ago

Yeah, I'm sorry but I think every point I made went right over your head. I said give municipalities the right to build their own networks, and you say "well, one of the nation's largest phone companies sued Monticello, not Verizon. Therefore, your claims against Verizon are unwarranted." What? And then you said "it's expensive, and it takes time." Well yeah, that's pretty much a given. That's why you let municipalities do it instead of suing them when they try. That's why we handed Verizon $70 billion--to do exactly that. That's what we expect out of a company like AT&T who generates $120 billion in annual revenue. They should have saw this coming, and instead of upgrading their crap network, they want to tell us that "we don't have the bandwidth to support your YouTube and Hulu habits, therefore, we shall charge you even more!" Rich and poor has everything to do with it. Look up redlining and HR 5252. This is all about money, you'd be stupid to argue that it's not.