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I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or G

I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or GETs to tracking APIs either, that I can see. Not sure what you're referring to, but this is the most privacy-respecting webpage I've been to in a long time. Same thing going to mozilla.org . I'm not seeing any tiny hint of what you're describing.

jeroenhd 3y ago
Well, I'll be damned, they actually removed their trackers! That's great to see! I still get URLs like https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.../whatsnew/?oldversion=...&utm_medium=firefox-desktop&utm_source=update&utm_campaign= https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.../whatsnew/?oldversi...... opening up with every update, though, despite having everything under "Firefox Data Collection and Use" disabled. I don't know what data this request is logging (seems to be just "firefox-desktop", oldversion and the new version, but I can't tell if they track anything else (language, IP address, etc.). I wish I could just disable these popups without digging through about:config (which I thought I had already done).
krono 3y ago
This is entirely false, you must be blocking the requests on the network level or something. For one the getfirefox.com redirect includes tracking parameters in the destination URL, then there's Google Tag Manager, there is Sentry, some pages with their first party analytics solutions like Glean and more.
- amatecha 3y ago
  I installed uBlock Origin, with my Privacy settings set to normal/default, and there is nothing blocked (normally the plugin would show a long list of blocked analytics stuff). No clue, are you using Firefox as well? Not sure what the difference is with our experiences, but I see not a shred of Google or analytics-related network requests when I navigate to getfirefox.com . It DOES have a query param in the destination URL that suggests tracking, but it never does anything with it (???) https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/?redirect_source=getfirefox-com https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/?redirect_source=g... ... I'm investigating further and I see that the page itself loads a self-hosted Google Tag Manager .js, but it looks like it has code that respects the "do not track" setting in my browser, but oddly I don't even have that enabled (woops)! Strange, no idea what's different for me. I'll try on another machine just to compare!
  - krono 3y ago
    That's interesting, I'm indeed seeing some differences between browsers on those pages but those aren't exactly baseline setups. I'll have to do a more thorough comparison tomorrow and will reply with my findings.
    - krono 3y ago
      Having some issues with the system I want to use for these tests. Expecting to get this done over the weekend.

jeroenhd 3y ago

Well, I'll be damned, they actually removed their trackers! That's great to see! I still get URLs like https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.../whatsnew/?oldversion=...&utm_medium=firefox-desktop&utm_source=update&utm_campaign= https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.../whatsnew/?oldversi...... opening up with every update, though, despite having everything under "Firefox Data Collection and Use" disabled. I don't know what data this request is logging (seems to be just "firefox-desktop", oldversion and the new version, but I can't tell if they track anything else (language, IP address, etc.). I wish I could just disable these popups without digging through about:config (which I thought I had already done).

krono 3y ago

This is entirely false, you must be blocking the requests on the network level or something. For one the getfirefox.com redirect includes tracking parameters in the destination URL, then there's Google Tag Manager, there is Sentry, some pages with their first party analytics solutions like Glean and more.

amatecha 3y ago
I installed uBlock Origin, with my Privacy settings set to normal/default, and there is nothing blocked (normally the plugin would show a long list of blocked analytics stuff). No clue, are you using Firefox as well? Not sure what the difference is with our experiences, but I see not a shred of Google or analytics-related network requests when I navigate to getfirefox.com . It DOES have a query param in the destination URL that suggests tracking, but it never does anything with it (???) https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/?redirect_source=getfirefox-com https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/?redirect_source=g... ... I'm investigating further and I see that the page itself loads a self-hosted Google Tag Manager .js, but it looks like it has code that respects the "do not track" setting in my browser, but oddly I don't even have that enabled (woops)! Strange, no idea what's different for me. I'll try on another machine just to compare!
- krono 3y ago
  That's interesting, I'm indeed seeing some differences between browsers on those pages but those aren't exactly baseline setups. I'll have to do a more thorough comparison tomorrow and will reply with my findings.
  - krono 3y ago
    Having some issues with the system I want to use for these tests. Expecting to get this done over the weekend.