> Those other drives (let's boil it down to "altruism") are perhaps dependable at a small, personal scale, but not at larger scales. They don't boil down to an

> Those other drives (let's boil it down to "altruism") are perhaps dependable at a small, personal scale, but not at larger scales. They don't boil down to anything, nor are they necessarily altruistic. You are a human too! You must feel those other drives instrinsically. Almost all people are more driven by other things than greed and profit-seeking. You probably live in a democracy, whose foundation is liberty and justice for all, not profit-seeking and greed. It's the most successful form of government in human history, with no competition. > Public policy certainly should not be made on the basis of selfless angels working tirelessly for the benefit of all. It shouldn't be made on the basis of any extreme or strawperson. > Well, everyone has an agenda. To greatly varying degrees. Everyone is violent, but some will never touch you and some will kill you. Everyone is a liar, but some you can trust and some you can't.