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I like how cheese stubbornly doesn't want to be an industrial tasteless odorless crap. Camembert is well known to be mostly controlled by industrial, meaning m
by forty 3y ago
I like how cheese stubbornly doesn't want to be an industrial tasteless odorless crap. Camembert is well known to be mostly controlled by industrial, meaning most Camembert even here in France are industrial crap (there is a AOP/DPO "Camembert de Normandie" which is better and at least forbids pasteurized milk).
- JodieBenitez 3y agoWatch out for: - Jort - Marie Harel - Gillot - Moulin de Carel
- hammock 3y agoThose are good ones? Or bad ones? I believe Marie Harel invented camembert
- wazoox 3y agoThose are good.
- JodieBenitez 3y agoYes, those are good ones. BTW, Marie Harel is made by Gillot. As a general rule, avoid any pasteurized camembert, they have no taste.
- scooke 3y ago"Keep an eye out for" better fits your intention. "Watch out for" implies potential danger or a need for caution. "Watch for" might work but is more for use in an active situation that changes.
- JodieBenitez 3y agoThanks. English is not my first language, it's good to learn more of it. Actually, one could argue there's potential danger in good cheese. A danger for pasteurized cheese of course.
- xwolfi 3y agoTo be honest, I was born and spent my first 23 years in Normandy, never quite could enjoy the real Camembert. I prefer the supermaket ones with less aggressive taste. Ofc I moved to China and now all I can eat is Brie.
- ekianjo 3y agoThey dont import Camembert in China? In Japan we hardly ever find Brie
- themaninthedark 3y agoNo, the only cheese that is easily available in Japan is shredded Gouda.
- contingencies 3y agoOrder some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubing from Yunnan on Taobao. For western cheese try https://www.metro.com.cn/en/home https://www.metro.com.cn/en/home who sometimes do good deals on wheels of Gouda, fetta, blue cheeses, etc. Don't buy the small highly marked up stuff from specialty retailers, they're always a ripoff. A couple of importers on Taobao too, for specific products. They are a good source for Indian, Southeast Asian and Middle Eastern ingredients too.
- conradfr 3y agoActually the AOP has been weakened by the industrial lobby since 2021, the real one is now «véritable camembert de Normandie». Personally I've never been a fan, except when barbecued.
- sva_ 3y agoSlice the Camembert horizontally and put it in the wooden container it comes with, add garlic, olive oil and thyme, bake for about 15min. Goes great with a lot of stuff.
- TheRoque 3y agoTo be fair, cheese in most countries are industrial odorless crap. Or if there's some good one, there's often not a lot of diversity. France and Italy are probably the 2 countries where cheeses are "stubborn". If people know other countries with great cheese culture, I'd be curious to know though.
- McDyver 3y agoPortugal has lots of different cheeses (and wine, olive oil, sausages, ...) The link below lists only the protected ones. https://tradicional.dgadr.gov.pt/en/categories/cheese-and-other-dairy-products https://tradicional.dgadr.gov.pt/en/categories/cheese-and-ot...
- humanfromearth9 3y agoBelgium and the Netherlands without any doubt
- humanfromearth9 3y agoCheck this ad: https://youtu.be/qKe1twOahmQ?feature=shared https://youtu.be/qKe1twOahmQ?feature=shared. It used to be broadcast everyday on TV when I was a boy. My favourite one for eating on a slice of bread with some soup : Orval. Another favourite of mine, close to Orval: Fromage d'Amblève/Ameler Käse.
- humanfromearth9 3y agoAnd as I mention Orval cheese, it reminds me of their beer, which is also one of the best worldwide. And this leads me to Chouffe and McChouffe beers, and Lupulus.
- contravariant 3y agoJust try to avoid the supermarkets.
- badpun 3y agoI've heard good things about Switzerland.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoIt's very hard to find a good camembert now. Easier with goat cheese and other products from the mountain. But yesterday we bought one in Esteron that finally tasted how it's supposed to taste. So it still exists, but as with anything popular, it dies from tragedy of the common.
- Tactician_mark 3y agoI'm sure you're right about the declining quality of Camembert, but I can't help but be reminded of this comic: http://smbc-comics.com/comic/craproot http://smbc-comics.com/comic/craproot
- moritzwarhier 3y agowhat do you mean by "tragedy of the common"? is it a play on words regarding the economical "tragedy of the commons"?
- hilbert42 3y agoWe know what he means. As popularity increases quality drops as manufacturers scale up to meet demand. As demand increase the economic incentives change and there's pressure to cut costs and thus quality suffers. The problem's been around since time immemorial.