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Obviously this is more true to actual Lisp machines than Emacs, but in practice how different of a UX would this be? Ignoring the huge ecosystem around Emacs, i

Obviously this is more true to actual Lisp machines than Emacs, but in practice how different of a UX would this be? Ignoring the huge ecosystem around Emacs, it seems like the main difference is being able to save the application state and restore it at a later time. Are there any other major differences?

pjmlp 3y ago
Think about the bootloader landing on Emacs, being graphical based not text, compiling elisp to native code, the image based, systems programming forms for elisp, the whole OS infrastructure and graphical applications, that is how much it is missing from Emacs.
lispm 3y ago
see for example two Symbolics applications demoed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKlgza_HgE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKlgza_HgE first demo is about Paintamation, a 2,5d paint and animation application the second demo is demoing the 3d modeler and the 3d animation application running on the Symbolics with a b&w console, a color screen & framebuffer, a Lisp keyboard and a pen tablet All the code was written in object-oriented Lisp.
- malkia 3y ago
  Completely unrelated, but I think "symbolics.com" was the absolutely first domain registered. Also thanks for the video :) :) :)
  - lispm 3y ago
    > but I think "symbolics.com" was the absolutely first domain registered no quite, there were a few earlier domains registered. But it's the first .com domain registered.
    - chx 3y ago
      More like created, registration process was not open. Was there anything but the darpa domains and nordu.net before symbolics?
    - malkia 3y ago
      ah yes - thanks for the correction! It was the first .com indeed.
- agumonkey 3y ago
  hehe, I rewatched this just two days ago, it's still very impressive. Had a symbolics relapse after finding about kaveh kardan involvment with them and his blog/snippets https://scribe.rip/@kaveh808/rediscovering-common-lisp-57f5cae8b779 https://scribe.rip/@kaveh808/rediscovering-common-lisp-57f5c...

pjmlp 3y ago

Think about the bootloader landing on Emacs, being graphical based not text, compiling elisp to native code, the image based, systems programming forms for elisp, the whole OS infrastructure and graphical applications, that is how much it is missing from Emacs.

lispm 3y ago

see for example two Symbolics applications demoed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKlgza_HgE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKlgza_HgE first demo is about Paintamation, a 2,5d paint and animation application the second demo is demoing the 3d modeler and the 3d animation application running on the Symbolics with a b&w console, a color screen & framebuffer, a Lisp keyboard and a pen tablet All the code was written in object-oriented Lisp.

malkia 3y ago
Completely unrelated, but I think "symbolics.com" was the absolutely first domain registered. Also thanks for the video :) :) :)
- lispm 3y ago
  > but I think "symbolics.com" was the absolutely first domain registered no quite, there were a few earlier domains registered. But it's the first .com domain registered.
  - chx 3y ago
    More like created, registration process was not open. Was there anything but the darpa domains and nordu.net before symbolics?
  - malkia 3y ago
    ah yes - thanks for the correction! It was the first .com indeed.
agumonkey 3y ago
hehe, I rewatched this just two days ago, it's still very impressive. Had a symbolics relapse after finding about kaveh kardan involvment with them and his blog/snippets https://scribe.rip/@kaveh808/rediscovering-common-lisp-57f5cae8b779 https://scribe.rip/@kaveh808/rediscovering-common-lisp-57f5c...