You have gone on like... three different wild tangents here, none of which contradict anything I've said. My point was never that startups are helping yuppies

You have gone on like... three different wild tangents here, none of which contradict anything I've said. My point was never that startups are helping yuppies save the world by getting yuppies to buy ugly food. My point was, that food being deemed as below standard and thrown out, in any amount, is disgusting in a world that still has food-insecure people in it. That's it. I don't give a shit about these startups. If it is true what they say that they are indeed bridging a gap between food that would otherwise be discarded and well-meaning people who want to change how they consume in such a way that's slightly more beneficial to the world, then more power to them. That's a good thing, IMO. But it is also a band-aid solution to the larger problems of the logistics of food production and distribution, and if anything, it's an extension of one of the bigger problems in itself: that food is not grown, shipped, and sold to feed people, it is done to make money and therefore, if a given group of people exists that it is not profitable to sell food to, they will not be fed. That, to me, is disgusting. The rest of this is a lot of waffle about how stupid Americans are and I'm just not interested in that as a topic. Edit: Yeah I just saw your other comment and it's clear you're just here with an axe to grind about people you perceive to be richer than yourself, and, I dunno man, maybe that's important, but to me it's boring. Go find someone else to grind it with.