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"Haiku is probably the best positioned to challenge the mainstream operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS." This is an absurd statement. Stop wast

"Haiku is probably the best positioned to challenge the mainstream operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS." This is an absurd statement. Stop wasting time solving problems that don't exist for 98% of the market. "More choice" is not a better than if the choices suck. "Within 20 seconds or so of restarting, the machine was chugging away with all of its media files in the place they were when they were halted, as if nothing had happened." This was really cool in the early days of BeOS. But that was more than a decade ago. People of earth: there is a talent crisis right now. The world needs great developers to build awesome apps for a whole new class of machines. If you feel an urge to "start from scratch" — help rebuild everything for mobile. It's a big job, there are too many projects and not enough developers, and you'll be contributing to a seismic shift in computing. Stop solving problems that don't exist for most people. Build apps that people will use. Do big things that address 98% of users. These guys clearly have dev chops that I admire, so don't waste them on a project like this.

neckpunch 14y ago
What makes you so angry about people making things? Would you be happier with another fart app?
SkyMarshal 14y ago
> If you feel an urge to "start from scratch" — help rebuild everything for mobile. Given that mobile hardware is about where desktop hardware was when BeOS was invented, I wonder if some company could use it as a new smartphone OS. There's an unfinished ARM port in progress but would probably need commercial support to complete. The thing about innovation is, it's not always possible to predict what will be valuable or not. Not many people would have predicted Linux back in Linus's early days, for example.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  You know Palm (or was it Access?) bought Be (and BeOS) for reasons then (and, to be fair, now too) unfathomable. Now they can say "That's what we intended all along" ;-)
  - alxp 14y ago
    WebOS's biggest problem was UI performance. Sick, sad irony strikes again.
    - untog 14y ago
      No, WebOS's biggest problem was either a lack of third party support or sub-par devices to run on.
rbanffy 14y ago
> The world needs great developers to build awesome apps for a whole new class of machines Developers work on things they find cool, not the things you need done. To get those done, you either do them yourself, or you pay someone to do them. And let them work on whatever they find fun on their own spare time.
dman 14y ago
You do realise that people do this in their own spare time out of love and passion?
Avshalom 14y ago
>The world needs great developers to build awesome apps for a whole new class of machines. ... for very idiosyncratic definitions of "the world" and "need"
unimpressive 14y ago
>Stop solving problems that don't exist for most people. Build apps that people will use. Do big things that address 98% of users. These guys clearly have dev chops that I admire, so don't waste them on a project like this. I know this site was originally called start-up news, but going to a site branded "hacker" news and seeing a post like this creates something of a LMFAO experience. Please read your own post over again, and if you somehow don't see the irony in telling a group of people who at this point almost certainly qualify as hackers to stop working on a project they love on a site called hacker news, I suggest revisiting the published literature laying out what a 'hacker' is. (Starting with Hackers: heroes of the computer revolution if you haven't read it yet.)
ibisum 14y ago
There is room in the world for more operating system choice, most certainly. The modern hardware landscape being what it is, the OS is the App, pretty much, so work that out .. Haiku has its place. Maybe after Web2.0 lights are faded, we will enter "OS War 4.0" and see where it takes us. I'm ready! (Still got my aging BeBox, to boot!)

neckpunch 14y ago

What makes you so angry about people making things? Would you be happier with another fart app?

SkyMarshal 14y ago

> If you feel an urge to "start from scratch" — help rebuild everything for mobile. Given that mobile hardware is about where desktop hardware was when BeOS was invented, I wonder if some company could use it as a new smartphone OS. There's an unfinished ARM port in progress but would probably need commercial support to complete. The thing about innovation is, it's not always possible to predict what will be valuable or not. Not many people would have predicted Linux back in Linus's early days, for example.

rbanffy 14y ago
You know Palm (or was it Access?) bought Be (and BeOS) for reasons then (and, to be fair, now too) unfathomable. Now they can say "That's what we intended all along" ;-)
- alxp 14y ago
  WebOS's biggest problem was UI performance. Sick, sad irony strikes again.
  - untog 14y ago
    No, WebOS's biggest problem was either a lack of third party support or sub-par devices to run on.

rbanffy 14y ago

> The world needs great developers to build awesome apps for a whole new class of machines Developers work on things they find cool, not the things you need done. To get those done, you either do them yourself, or you pay someone to do them. And let them work on whatever they find fun on their own spare time.

dman 14y ago

You do realise that people do this in their own spare time out of love and passion?

Avshalom 14y ago

>The world needs great developers to build awesome apps for a whole new class of machines. ... for very idiosyncratic definitions of "the world" and "need"

unimpressive 14y ago

>Stop solving problems that don't exist for most people. Build apps that people will use. Do big things that address 98% of users. These guys clearly have dev chops that I admire, so don't waste them on a project like this. I know this site was originally called start-up news, but going to a site branded "hacker" news and seeing a post like this creates something of a LMFAO experience. Please read your own post over again, and if you somehow don't see the irony in telling a group of people who at this point almost certainly qualify as hackers to stop working on a project they love on a site called hacker news, I suggest revisiting the published literature laying out what a 'hacker' is. (Starting with Hackers: heroes of the computer revolution if you haven't read it yet.)

ibisum 14y ago

There is room in the world for more operating system choice, most certainly. The modern hardware landscape being what it is, the OS is the App, pretty much, so work that out .. Haiku has its place. Maybe after Web2.0 lights are faded, we will enter "OS War 4.0" and see where it takes us. I'm ready! (Still got my aging BeBox, to boot!)