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Northern central U.S. experiences yearly temps down to -20f (-28c). Some years this nightly temp lasts for weeks. It's common to see dozens of cars at an auto s
by devwastaken 3y ago
Northern central U.S. experiences yearly temps down to -20f (-28c). Some years this nightly temp lasts for weeks. It's common to see dozens of cars at an auto store replacing batteries in gas cars. The solution is simple - keep it plugged in. But that's only useful advice if you own a home. Apartments largely refuse to have outlets available. Even ones that physically have them have disabled them to prevent "electricity theft". This is a fancy term to describe apartment complexs owned remotely. Property managers "don't want to deal with it", even if the cases are insignificant it's an easy excuse to eliminate costs.
It is another example of how rent is destroying the Midwest. A democratic society would have regulated that all rentals provide such services.
- tylerflick 3y agoCalifornia has a law on the books stating that the landlord has to let the tenant install chargers for EV’s, but at the cost of the tenant. I feel like this is a fair compromise.
- devwastaken 3y agoThis is not a fair compromise. The costs of a singular install are significant and far more expensive to do in a retrofit. It is economical to do them all at once. Access to a power outlet is necessary for society to operate, you need your car to get to work, get food and access society. Renters have the money to do it, but they won't spend until forced to.
- natch 3y agoYou can choose an apartment that has an outlet (of your own indoors such as in the kitchen) near a sliding door or window that opens and allows a cord to reach your parking space. I didn’t say every apartment has such a setup, but choices can be made and the gap in the window can be blocked with insulating material. People can make it work if they want to.
- notaustinpowers 3y agoGood luck to anyone not on the first floor. Or anyone who's windows don't face the parking lot. Or anyone with on-site property management since that's very much not allowed in most leases.
- natch 3y agoI don’t think state or provincial governments who are trying to enable conversion to electric in any way they can will look kindly on any lease provisions that have unreasonable restrictions on electric vehicle charging when one can safely use a proper cord plugged into a proper outlet in one’s own wall in a rental unit.
- devwastaken 3y agoThere isn't a choice. Its -20 out. Are you keeping your window open in the third story to run a 150' extension cord down the parking lot? Before commenting it is useful to test your position instead of replying on someone else to invalidate it for you.
- natch 3y agoI tested the position for 2 years. The cord doesn’t have to be that long. It’s not always -20 out and air gaps can be blocked with suitable materials. Not all apartments are on the third story. Second story reaches just fine with 25 foot if you are positioned well. Choose your apartment accordingly. Before commenting it’s useful to consider that the person you are responding to may already have thought things through and tested their scenario in actual practice in the real world.
- jjtheblunt 3y agoI imagine offering even a 120v NEMA 5-15 socket (normal north american modern sockets) would be a competitive advantage per parking spot for new construction, without needing regulation, if builders knew it was a widely requested (or soon to be widely requested) feature.
- sevenf0ur 3y agoFrom the abolish rent crowd, I mostly hear that they want more affordable high density housing and less car dependency. Not more parking lots, garages, and chargers.