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If they're operating fences and other criminal operations openly and police aren't doing anything, it's either corruption, laziness, or they've actually lost co

If they're operating fences and other criminal operations openly and police aren't doing anything, it's either corruption, laziness, or they've actually lost control of parts of the city. What good is a license reader going to do? They literally know where these operations are.

nolongerthere 3y ago
Correct because the issue isn’t with the police, it’s with the elected officials and DA’s office. The law makers have essentially legalized crime, most of the DAs decline to prosecute criminals no matter how destructive the crime, police are totally useless if the rest of the apparatus refuses to do their job.
- jeffbee 3y ago
  This is not accurate. The policies of the office of the district attorney haven't changed. The SFPD on the other hand has reached all-time-low productivity.
  - justrealist 3y ago
    You would be unproductive too if 100% of your arrests led to the immediate reslease of the suspect.
    - jeffbee 3y ago
      I guess if you can name a city where that's true then you'd have a point. The prosecution rate in SF has been about the same since records began.
      - shuckles 3y ago
        Prosecution rate is conditioned on the cases presented, so it’s not an independent variable. You can’t infer much from it being constant over time.
    - BobaFloutist 3y ago
      The police won their recall election and the Mayor appointed one of their allies as the DA. Their rates are still abysmal.
      - shuckles 3y ago
        The police won their recall election? I wasn't aware that SFPD was sponsoring recalls. And if you're trying to imply the mayor's choice of DA impacted policy, it seems like you should take it up with the person who claims that the DA's policies haven't changed.
  - nolongerthere 3y ago
    Would you mind backing these claims up with the raw data? Your first claim is DA policies haven't changed, and down-thread you claim "The prosecution rate in SF has been about the same since records began", where are you getting the data to run these reports that support this claim? Your second claim is: "The SFPD on the other hand has reached all-time-low productivity." Do you have data to back this claim up as well? if so please share.

nolongerthere 3y ago

Correct because the issue isn’t with the police, it’s with the elected officials and DA’s office. The law makers have essentially legalized crime, most of the DAs decline to prosecute criminals no matter how destructive the crime, police are totally useless if the rest of the apparatus refuses to do their job.

jeffbee 3y ago
This is not accurate. The policies of the office of the district attorney haven't changed. The SFPD on the other hand has reached all-time-low productivity.
- justrealist 3y ago
  You would be unproductive too if 100% of your arrests led to the immediate reslease of the suspect.
  - jeffbee 3y ago
    I guess if you can name a city where that's true then you'd have a point. The prosecution rate in SF has been about the same since records began.
    - shuckles 3y ago
      Prosecution rate is conditioned on the cases presented, so it’s not an independent variable. You can’t infer much from it being constant over time.
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    The police won their recall election and the Mayor appointed one of their allies as the DA. Their rates are still abysmal.
    - shuckles 3y ago
      The police won their recall election? I wasn't aware that SFPD was sponsoring recalls. And if you're trying to imply the mayor's choice of DA impacted policy, it seems like you should take it up with the person who claims that the DA's policies haven't changed.
- nolongerthere 3y ago
  Would you mind backing these claims up with the raw data? Your first claim is DA policies haven't changed, and down-thread you claim "The prosecution rate in SF has been about the same since records began", where are you getting the data to run these reports that support this claim? Your second claim is: "The SFPD on the other hand has reached all-time-low productivity." Do you have data to back this claim up as well? if so please share.