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Early reports are that the Vision feels quite heavy to wear. That’s almost certainly going to make it a bad choice for virtual screens for more than an hour or

Early reports are that the Vision feels quite heavy to wear. That’s almost certainly going to make it a bad choice for virtual screens for more than an hour or so.

nerdjon 3y ago
From what I can tell it is about the same weight as the Valve Index which I have been able to wear for a fairly extended period of time while doing physical activities. If I can wear that while being physical I can probably handle the Vision Pro for extended periods.
- jwells89 3y ago
  Based on my extensive experience with a Quest 2, overall weight isn’t as much of a factor as balance of that weight is. The Quest 2 wasn’t that comfortable to use out of the box, but after adding a Vive Deluxe Audio Strap connected with 3D printed adapters (which distributes weight better) and a counterweight that’s attached the back of the strap it’s dramatically improved. Still not perfect, but I have no issues wearing it for an hour or longer playing Beat Saber.
  - nerdjon 3y ago
    That is a good point which is really hard to get a good feel for what this will be in that regards without actually trying it. But I just don't think weight alone will be a concern given my experience with the Index. My only problems with the index is the weight distribution while moving around (particularly while playing beat saber and crouching) but I likely wouldn't be doing that with the Vision Pro. And heat while being physically active but that was easily solvable by adding a fan to the front. I already use this thing almost every day. But maybe that's because I am used too it so the jump to something like this is not really that crazy.
- dpkonofa 3y ago
  I didn't realize it would be the same weight as an Index. That's great to hear. I found the Index incredibly comfortable for long stretches too. Half-Life: Alyx was incredible and spent hours at a time playing it without any discomfort.
- FumblingBear 3y ago
  It's actually about 150-200 grams lighter than the Index, though the distribution of weight seems to be better balanced on the Index than the AVP. Hard to say how it will feel for long term usage, but I'm not particularly concerned, personally.
bombcar 3y ago
Just tie enough helium balloons to it. Problem solved!
- peddling-brink 3y ago
  Apple Vision Air, available now in Mylar.
reustle 3y ago
I’ve done countless long trips on motorcycles and have never been bothered by the weight of the helmet. I’m curious if a little bit of exercise will counter any discomfort with this. Seems other headsets have had similar complaints, too.
- zamalek 3y ago
  VR enthusiast here. A heavy thing hanging off the front of your face is extremely different to a helmet on top of your head. Wait for reviews and pay particular attention to how Apple have approached that issue.
  - reustle 3y ago
    My guess is that the primary goal would be balance front to back, assuming you use their stronger over-head strap. Then it shouldn’t be pulling you forward.
    - ninkendo 3y ago
      There doesn’t seem to be anything balancing the weight on the vision pro, the weight appears to be all in the front. You’re going to be feeling torque rotating your head forward about the axis of your neck, regardless of how good the strap is.
      - zamalek 3y ago
        The mounting/straps can make a huge difference, e.g. the strap going over the top of the head was a game-changer for me. It obviously can't fix everything, though.
  - mensetmanusman 3y ago
    Heavy and Balanced is more comfortable than Light and Unbalanced.
jsheard 3y ago
There is a variable there in that there's an optional over-the-top strap included in the retail package, but many of the people who previewed it either chose not to use it or weren't offered it. MKBHD for example emphasized how heavy it feels, but he wasn't using the top strap. https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348 https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348
- rchaud 3y ago
  I'm imagining Steve Jobs responding to an irate customer with "you're strapping it in wrong".
  - drewbug01 3y ago
    I mean, I can see the comparison! But on the other hand, they took the feedback this time and created a different strap to address it (and early reviews seem to indicate it does help quite a bit). So - lols aside - I don’t think it’s quite the same thing. I think they realize it’s a real issue for some people and they’re trying to address that earnestly.

Early reports are that the Vision feels quite heavy to wear. That’s almost certainly going to make it a bad choice for virtual screens for more than an hour or so.

nerdjon 3y ago

From what I can tell it is about the same weight as the Valve Index which I have been able to wear for a fairly extended period of time while doing physical activities. If I can wear that while being physical I can probably handle the Vision Pro for extended periods.

jwells89 3y ago
Based on my extensive experience with a Quest 2, overall weight isn’t as much of a factor as balance of that weight is. The Quest 2 wasn’t that comfortable to use out of the box, but after adding a Vive Deluxe Audio Strap connected with 3D printed adapters (which distributes weight better) and a counterweight that’s attached the back of the strap it’s dramatically improved. Still not perfect, but I have no issues wearing it for an hour or longer playing Beat Saber.
- nerdjon 3y ago
  That is a good point which is really hard to get a good feel for what this will be in that regards without actually trying it. But I just don't think weight alone will be a concern given my experience with the Index. My only problems with the index is the weight distribution while moving around (particularly while playing beat saber and crouching) but I likely wouldn't be doing that with the Vision Pro. And heat while being physically active but that was easily solvable by adding a fan to the front. I already use this thing almost every day. But maybe that's because I am used too it so the jump to something like this is not really that crazy.
dpkonofa 3y ago
I didn't realize it would be the same weight as an Index. That's great to hear. I found the Index incredibly comfortable for long stretches too. Half-Life: Alyx was incredible and spent hours at a time playing it without any discomfort.
FumblingBear 3y ago
It's actually about 150-200 grams lighter than the Index, though the distribution of weight seems to be better balanced on the Index than the AVP. Hard to say how it will feel for long term usage, but I'm not particularly concerned, personally.

bombcar 3y ago

Just tie enough helium balloons to it. Problem solved!

peddling-brink 3y ago
Apple Vision Air, available now in Mylar.

reustle 3y ago

I’ve done countless long trips on motorcycles and have never been bothered by the weight of the helmet. I’m curious if a little bit of exercise will counter any discomfort with this. Seems other headsets have had similar complaints, too.

zamalek 3y ago
VR enthusiast here. A heavy thing hanging off the front of your face is extremely different to a helmet on top of your head. Wait for reviews and pay particular attention to how Apple have approached that issue.
- reustle 3y ago
  My guess is that the primary goal would be balance front to back, assuming you use their stronger over-head strap. Then it shouldn’t be pulling you forward.
  - ninkendo 3y ago
    There doesn’t seem to be anything balancing the weight on the vision pro, the weight appears to be all in the front. You’re going to be feeling torque rotating your head forward about the axis of your neck, regardless of how good the strap is.
    - zamalek 3y ago
      The mounting/straps can make a huge difference, e.g. the strap going over the top of the head was a game-changer for me. It obviously can't fix everything, though.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  Heavy and Balanced is more comfortable than Light and Unbalanced.

jsheard 3y ago

There is a variable there in that there's an optional over-the-top strap included in the retail package, but many of the people who previewed it either chose not to use it or weren't offered it. MKBHD for example emphasized how heavy it feels, but he wasn't using the top strap. https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348 https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348

rchaud 3y ago
I'm imagining Steve Jobs responding to an irate customer with "you're strapping it in wrong".
- drewbug01 3y ago
  I mean, I can see the comparison! But on the other hand, they took the feedback this time and created a different strap to address it (and early reviews seem to indicate it does help quite a bit). So - lols aside - I don’t think it’s quite the same thing. I think they realize it’s a real issue for some people and they’re trying to address that earnestly.