> BTW this is where commute by public transport shines. That depends on the public transport. When I lived in London (inside what is known as the zones 1-6), I

> BTW this is where commute by public transport shines. That depends on the public transport. When I lived in London (inside what is known as the zones 1-6), I had a walk, a wait for space on a train, then stand for 40 minutes on that completely packed train, then a change at a crowded station, then another wait for space on an underground train, then stand on a completely packed underground train. All of this while dealing with angry and rude other people trying to push on each step before you. I would get to work completely stressed and in a bad mood already. That is on a good day. On a bad day the trains would just be cancelled, or the underground halted, or something and it would take hours to just get to the office. The only way I would consider going back to something like that is for a huge, huge amount of money.