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I’m curious how well this could work for using it as a portable multi-monitor setup. If that works well in combination with my MacBook, I’ll buy it in a heartb

I’m curious how well this could work for using it as a portable multi-monitor setup. If that works well in combination with my MacBook, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. Imagine just sitting anywhere, but immediately having 3 large vertical screens with code and documentation.

TotoHorner 3y ago
I use the Quest 3 for this and it works really well (I have a m1 mbp). I use the Immersed app and I'm able to code for 3-4 hours a day with the headset.
- arjonagelhout 3y ago
  I’ve tried it with the Quest Pro, but latency and connectivity issues in combination with the clunky Quest operating system and confusing Immersed user interface, pushed me away. I want it to just work. Put on the headset and immediately be connected.
- andsoitis 3y ago
  What do you wish was better?
- Ancapistani 3y ago
  I recently retired my Quest 2 in favor of a Pimax Crystal QLED. The resolution is superb, and it's well-suited to my primary use case (gaming/flight sim), but I will say that the one app that I miss from my Quest 2 is Immersed. I _really_ wish I could use my Crystal for productivity, but I've found no other virtual desktop app on any platform that can compete with Immersed.
SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
This is precisely the use case I’m interested in. I work with a single monitor using a tiling window manager and multiple workspaces. I usually have one workspace with email, iMessage, another with code+docs+terminal, another with some desktop app, etc. if this device can make that more efficient and allow me to separate contexts better I’m going to go for it. If I can have that AND be on the go it’s absolutely worth the money. I’m a bit loathe to go in on a $3500 device without trying it out though, so I’m waiting do a few weeks at least for some more reviews to trickle in and whatever hype to die down before checking it out. I am particularly interested in how heavy it is after wearing the thing for 4+ hours, which is not something you can really get a vibe about at the Apple Store
jsheard 3y ago
Resolution is the killer for that application. The panels in the Vision Pro are dense, but through the distortion of the optics and with those pixels stretched over your entire field of view only a fraction of them will actually be displaying your virtual monitor(s), and as you scale a monitor down in virtual space it also becomes lower resolution. For comfort and ergonomics you don't actually want a giant monitor that fills your entire FOV, there's a reason why real monitors have settled around 27-32" despite larger panels being available. Ironically existing Apple users are the most likely to notice this limitation, since their computers have had very high DPI displays as standard for a long time.
- LeifCarrotson 3y ago
  23 million pixels, divided by two, makes 12.5 MP per eye. Let's assume it's nearly square, so taking the square root gives us 3535 pixels in height and width. This graphic claims 3400x3400 resolution, so we're not far off: https://i.redd.it/apple-vision-pro-resolution-vs-other-headsets-that-also-v0-x20hu8jd2fcc1.jpeg?s=7b6feb8dc3a5eea3222ecc692b2b94b69e293481 https://i.redd.it/apple-vision-pro-resolution-vs-other-heads... Frustratingly, the spec sheet doesn't list FOV, but let's assume it's on the order of 110 degrees. That gives us about 31 pixels per degree. Right now, I'm sitting about 30 inches from a 24" diagonal 1920x1200 monitor. That gives a vertex angle of about 45 degrees, and it's 2264 pixels corner-to-corner, so I've got 50.3 pixels per degree. That's not high DPI, but it's acceptable. I also have a 4k, which is lovely, but given the chance I'll take more real estate over a small, high-DPI display. And with Vision Pro you can put monitors anywhere.
  - jsheard 3y ago
    Another detail to consider is that your 24" monitor is probably benefiting from subpixel font rendering effectively tripling the horizontal resolution of text, but that can only work on a pixel-perfect display, not on a virtual display which is scaled and transformed before being displayed on a real panel. I agree low DPI monitors are still acceptable, I'm using one now, but that's really contingent on subpixel fonts.
    - 3y ago
nerdjon 3y ago
Unless I have missed it (someone please correct me if I am wrong) it only does 1 screen for a Mac. But I agree, and the ability to do that really would make the price "reasonable". I mean I have 3 monitors on my main setup and one of those alone cost $1200 (I realize I didn't need to do that, but it still puts the price in prospective if I can have 3 virtual monitors on this thing.
joshstrange 3y ago
As others have said I think it just does 1 screen but it's a 4K screen you can make whatever size you want. I run 3 monitors (2 vertical on the sides, one horizontal in the middle) and I love that setup but with a window tiling app I could make 1 big screen work just as well I think. This is why I preordered it and if I don't think it delivers on that experience I'll probably return it. Productivity is my #1 use case with things like content consumption being a distant second.

TotoHorner 3y ago

I use the Quest 3 for this and it works really well (I have a m1 mbp). I use the Immersed app and I'm able to code for 3-4 hours a day with the headset.

arjonagelhout 3y ago
I’ve tried it with the Quest Pro, but latency and connectivity issues in combination with the clunky Quest operating system and confusing Immersed user interface, pushed me away. I want it to just work. Put on the headset and immediately be connected.
andsoitis 3y ago
What do you wish was better?
Ancapistani 3y ago
I recently retired my Quest 2 in favor of a Pimax Crystal QLED. The resolution is superb, and it's well-suited to my primary use case (gaming/flight sim), but I will say that the one app that I miss from my Quest 2 is Immersed. I _really_ wish I could use my Crystal for productivity, but I've found no other virtual desktop app on any platform that can compete with Immersed.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago

This is precisely the use case I’m interested in. I work with a single monitor using a tiling window manager and multiple workspaces. I usually have one workspace with email, iMessage, another with code+docs+terminal, another with some desktop app, etc. if this device can make that more efficient and allow me to separate contexts better I’m going to go for it. If I can have that AND be on the go it’s absolutely worth the money. I’m a bit loathe to go in on a $3500 device without trying it out though, so I’m waiting do a few weeks at least for some more reviews to trickle in and whatever hype to die down before checking it out. I am particularly interested in how heavy it is after wearing the thing for 4+ hours, which is not something you can really get a vibe about at the Apple Store

jsheard 3y ago

Resolution is the killer for that application. The panels in the Vision Pro are dense, but through the distortion of the optics and with those pixels stretched over your entire field of view only a fraction of them will actually be displaying your virtual monitor(s), and as you scale a monitor down in virtual space it also becomes lower resolution. For comfort and ergonomics you don't actually want a giant monitor that fills your entire FOV, there's a reason why real monitors have settled around 27-32" despite larger panels being available. Ironically existing Apple users are the most likely to notice this limitation, since their computers have had very high DPI displays as standard for a long time.

LeifCarrotson 3y ago
23 million pixels, divided by two, makes 12.5 MP per eye. Let's assume it's nearly square, so taking the square root gives us 3535 pixels in height and width. This graphic claims 3400x3400 resolution, so we're not far off: https://i.redd.it/apple-vision-pro-resolution-vs-other-headsets-that-also-v0-x20hu8jd2fcc1.jpeg?s=7b6feb8dc3a5eea3222ecc692b2b94b69e293481 https://i.redd.it/apple-vision-pro-resolution-vs-other-heads... Frustratingly, the spec sheet doesn't list FOV, but let's assume it's on the order of 110 degrees. That gives us about 31 pixels per degree. Right now, I'm sitting about 30 inches from a 24" diagonal 1920x1200 monitor. That gives a vertex angle of about 45 degrees, and it's 2264 pixels corner-to-corner, so I've got 50.3 pixels per degree. That's not high DPI, but it's acceptable. I also have a 4k, which is lovely, but given the chance I'll take more real estate over a small, high-DPI display. And with Vision Pro you can put monitors anywhere.
- jsheard 3y ago
  Another detail to consider is that your 24" monitor is probably benefiting from subpixel font rendering effectively tripling the horizontal resolution of text, but that can only work on a pixel-perfect display, not on a virtual display which is scaled and transformed before being displayed on a real panel. I agree low DPI monitors are still acceptable, I'm using one now, but that's really contingent on subpixel fonts.
  - 3y ago

nerdjon 3y ago

Unless I have missed it (someone please correct me if I am wrong) it only does 1 screen for a Mac. But I agree, and the ability to do that really would make the price "reasonable". I mean I have 3 monitors on my main setup and one of those alone cost $1200 (I realize I didn't need to do that, but it still puts the price in prospective if I can have 3 virtual monitors on this thing.

joshstrange 3y ago

As others have said I think it just does 1 screen but it's a 4K screen you can make whatever size you want. I run 3 monitors (2 vertical on the sides, one horizontal in the middle) and I love that setup but with a window tiling app I could make 1 big screen work just as well I think. This is why I preordered it and if I don't think it delivers on that experience I'll probably return it. Productivity is my #1 use case with things like content consumption being a distant second.