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Well, sorta. Plenty of psychotic smart guys around in big tech, too, which is a potent combo. Bezos; Zuckerberg; Musk, if his loose spending habits qualify him

Well, sorta. Plenty of psychotic smart guys around in big tech, too, which is a potent combo. Bezos; Zuckerberg; Musk, if his loose spending habits qualify him as a big tech leader. Capitalism rewards psychopaths the most, without guardrails they're gonna win every time, everywhere.

moritzwarhier 3y ago
Psychosis and psychopathic (or antisocial) traits are very different psychiatric phenomena. They are not even similar, also psychosis is often temporary. So maybe people should look for a different "smart" way of describing craziness. Or, if you want to use psychiatric terms, subclinic antisocial persobality disorder is most closely related to business success, as far as I know.
- tuukkah 3y ago
  "psychotic" seems to have been a typo as the subheading is "Psychopaths".
- coldpie 3y ago
  Sorry, I was (trying to) use the same term as the person I was replying to.
  - moritzwarhier 3y ago
    Should have answered to that then, sorry. Was just a quick lunch break thought.
  - herval 3y ago
    That was quoted from the article. I think they mistook the words
- mcmcmc 3y ago
  To be fair, with the rampant drug abuse in Silicon Valley (particularly hallucinogens) I would not be surprised if a lot of those execs have experienced psychosis.
mlrtime 3y ago
"psychotic" is being thrown around as the new "narcissist". Basically anyone with some personality trait that I don't agree with is now a "psychotic".
- asadotzler 3y ago
  but that's wrong. psychopathic is less wrong.
pjlegato 3y ago
Socialism rewards psychopaths even more than capitalism does. In that system, the psychopaths quickly become the ones who define what those "guardrails" are, for their own personal benefit; and then use the full weight of state enforcement power to prevent any dissent. At least under capitalism, the decentralized free market eventually erodes the ability of a corporation run by psychopaths to continue to operate, if not as fast as we might like.
- herval 3y ago
  Erhn… you’re saying the government of Vietnam has more psychopaths than a big corporation? I sincerely doubt it. No upside for them.
  - horns4lyfe 3y ago
    The psychopaths in a government have a monopoly on violence, though.
    - herval 3y ago
      You mean the cops. Yes, police force has a large number of sociopaths and psychopaths: https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1166&context=jj_etds https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1... Government official roles likely tend to attract those types too, although I don’t think the president of Portugal or any nordic country are more of a psychopath than the past presidents of the USA for instance (like, all of them) “because socialism hurr durr”

moritzwarhier 3y ago

Psychosis and psychopathic (or antisocial) traits are very different psychiatric phenomena. They are not even similar, also psychosis is often temporary. So maybe people should look for a different "smart" way of describing craziness. Or, if you want to use psychiatric terms, subclinic antisocial persobality disorder is most closely related to business success, as far as I know.

tuukkah 3y ago
"psychotic" seems to have been a typo as the subheading is "Psychopaths".
coldpie 3y ago
Sorry, I was (trying to) use the same term as the person I was replying to.
- moritzwarhier 3y ago
  Should have answered to that then, sorry. Was just a quick lunch break thought.
- herval 3y ago
  That was quoted from the article. I think they mistook the words
mcmcmc 3y ago
To be fair, with the rampant drug abuse in Silicon Valley (particularly hallucinogens) I would not be surprised if a lot of those execs have experienced psychosis.

mlrtime 3y ago

"psychotic" is being thrown around as the new "narcissist". Basically anyone with some personality trait that I don't agree with is now a "psychotic".

asadotzler 3y ago
but that's wrong. psychopathic is less wrong.

pjlegato 3y ago

Socialism rewards psychopaths even more than capitalism does. In that system, the psychopaths quickly become the ones who define what those "guardrails" are, for their own personal benefit; and then use the full weight of state enforcement power to prevent any dissent. At least under capitalism, the decentralized free market eventually erodes the ability of a corporation run by psychopaths to continue to operate, if not as fast as we might like.

herval 3y ago
Erhn… you’re saying the government of Vietnam has more psychopaths than a big corporation? I sincerely doubt it. No upside for them.
- horns4lyfe 3y ago
  The psychopaths in a government have a monopoly on violence, though.
  - herval 3y ago
    You mean the cops. Yes, police force has a large number of sociopaths and psychopaths: https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1166&context=jj_etds https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1... Government official roles likely tend to attract those types too, although I don’t think the president of Portugal or any nordic country are more of a psychopath than the past presidents of the USA for instance (like, all of them) “because socialism hurr durr”