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> Google Maps probably has MUCH better worldwide coverage. Which means that Apple Maps is useless in large parts of the world. But that is not a major disadvan

by rdtsc 3y ago

> Google Maps probably has MUCH better worldwide coverage. Which means that Apple Maps is useless in large parts of the world. But that is not a major disadvantage for everyone. It’s a disadvantage in those areas only. Same app version might work great for me, but not for someone else. I wonder if they specifically target improved coverage in areas with most iPhone customers?

oblio 3y ago
> But that is not a major disadvantage for everyone. It’s a disadvantage in those areas only. Yeah, duh. However from the original experience with Apple Maps, it was very US-centric and especially California-centric at the start. And I assume even Americans and Californians want to travel to places with bad coverage. So yes, this is a total blocker for people that live in those (many?) regions and a major issue even for people that don't live there. Edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/applemaps/comments/14wo26t/apple_maps_coverage_update_as_of_july_2023/ https://old.reddit.com/r/applemaps/comments/14wo26t/apple_ma... Apparently it's basically NA, Western Europe, Australia. So that's what, 1 billion people? The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck.
- rdtsc 3y ago
  > Yeah, duh. That's not as obvious and not true for most applications. A game or a note taking app will be great or crappy regardless of the area. Maps is an application where the same version works great in on area and then completely unusable in another geographical area. That's pretty odd if you think about it. So then it leads to endless debate "It works great for me, better than Google maps" and of course there will be someone who says "NO! It's complete crap and never works". And both may be right. > And I assume even Americans and Californians want to travel to places with bad coverage. Most people don't travel that much. iPhone and Apple's ecosystem in general was never positioned as affordable to 7+ billion people everywhere. I don't know if Apple is going to bother mapping details of some remote village just become an iPhone carrying American might visit. Maybe eventually, but they'll start with US probably. > The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck. Sure. Apple doesn't run a charity and providing details and accurate navigation and maps everywhere is not something they're in the business for.
- averageRoyalty 3y ago
  > Apparently it's basically NA, Western Europe, Australia. So that's what, 1 billion people? The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck. Sorry, is your criticism that this free app is only suitable for 1 billion or so people? That's a failure from your viewpoint?

by rdtsc 3y ago

oblio 3y ago

> But that is not a major disadvantage for everyone. It’s a disadvantage in those areas only. Yeah, duh. However from the original experience with Apple Maps, it was very US-centric and especially California-centric at the start. And I assume even Americans and Californians want to travel to places with bad coverage. So yes, this is a total blocker for people that live in those (many?) regions and a major issue even for people that don't live there. Edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/applemaps/comments/14wo26t/apple_maps_coverage_update_as_of_july_2023/ https://old.reddit.com/r/applemaps/comments/14wo26t/apple_ma... Apparently it's basically NA, Western Europe, Australia. So that's what, 1 billion people? The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck.

rdtsc 3y ago
> Yeah, duh. That's not as obvious and not true for most applications. A game or a note taking app will be great or crappy regardless of the area. Maps is an application where the same version works great in on area and then completely unusable in another geographical area. That's pretty odd if you think about it. So then it leads to endless debate "It works great for me, better than Google maps" and of course there will be someone who says "NO! It's complete crap and never works". And both may be right. > And I assume even Americans and Californians want to travel to places with bad coverage. Most people don't travel that much. iPhone and Apple's ecosystem in general was never positioned as affordable to 7+ billion people everywhere. I don't know if Apple is going to bother mapping details of some remote village just become an iPhone carrying American might visit. Maybe eventually, but they'll start with US probably. > The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck. Sure. Apple doesn't run a charity and providing details and accurate navigation and maps everywhere is not something they're in the business for.
averageRoyalty 3y ago
> Apparently it's basically NA, Western Europe, Australia. So that's what, 1 billion people? The remaining 7+ billion people, tough luck. Sorry, is your criticism that this free app is only suitable for 1 billion or so people? That's a failure from your viewpoint?