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Why do we have to change our language (and behaviour) for the edge cases? Is a grandparent who raises their grandchildren offended by the word parent? I doubt
by zpeti 3y ago
Why do we have to change our language (and behaviour) for the edge cases?
Is a grandparent who raises their grandchildren offended by the word parent? I doubt it.
What’s the point?
- DeathArrow 3y ago[flagged]
- stevage 3y agoThe only people experiencing offense here seem to be the ones who don't like the term child raiser for some reason.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI don't have a dog in this fight, but if there's a pushback on a change, that's defense, not offence.
- Ensorceled 3y agoSo, you are claiming they are "taking defense" not "taking offence"? Is this a terrible dad joke?
- anotherhue 3y agoPlease, child-raiser joke.
- robertlagrant 3y agoIt is, but it's also a point - if something is being changed, pushing back shouldn't be assumed to be being offended. In some cases, the people doing the change will be offended if you don't comply. And that will keep going when the change is changed again.
- DoughnutHole 3y agoThat's a weird distinction you've constructed to make it sound more okay to be offended if you feel you hold the more traditional position. > take offense (idiom) : to become angry or upset by something that another person has said or done : to be offended by something - Merriam-Webster That's all it means. If you're upset because someone says something different to what you consider the natural default you're still offended. People take offence to changes to and transgression against cultural norms all the time - offence at public gay affection, offence at interracial relationships, offence at not respecting christianity and religious norms, offence at use of swears, offence at the normalisation of talking about sex etc etc. Taking offence to certain changes to language isn't necessarily wrong, but it's still taking offence. "Taking offence" is what happens to you when something transgresses against your belief system, it's not just what the bad people do.
- robertlagrant 3y ago> you've constructed to make it sound more okay to be offended if you feel you hold the more traditional position You're incorrect. I didn't construct it to do that. > "Taking offence" is what happens to you when something transgresses against your belief system, it's not just what the bad people do. All the rest of your comment isn't really to do with what I was saying, although it does illustrate it. I was saying it's silly to change something and then call any pushback "offence", rather than a wide range of things it might be (unnecessary; harder to understand; unfamiliar; yet another change of a bazillion and it'll change again soon).
- froh 3y agothe idiom is "take offense in sth"
- 404man 3y ago> people experiencing offense You mean, the "offended ones"?
- Ygg2 3y agoHumans under effect of psychological duress.
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- wonderwonder 3y ago[flagged]
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- flkenosad 3y ago[flagged]
- gmadsen 3y agoFor one, I have never heard the term "child raiser" in my life so I assume its even more confusing for those with english as a second language. It also just sounds so emotionless, like children are cattle. I'm really struggling to see what is gained by not using parent. For all intents and purposes, people use the term parent for those raising a child.
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- IlliOnato 3y agoI am not taking sides in this discussion, but as a non-native English speaker I can assure you that the term was not confusing to me :-)
- flkenosad 3y agoYeah it's just internet people trying to coin terms then gaslighting those who don't adopt.
- skywhopper 3y agoNo one is gaslighting anyone, except maybe the folks who pretend language never changes. No one complained about the use of "parent". The folks who started the argument complained about "child raiser". The problem here are the "internet people" who pick pointless fights about the motives behind anyone who does anything differently than they would have done.
- Semaphor 3y agoAgreed. I don’t mind the term, but it also sounds emotionless to me, like corporate speech. Something I’d expect in a press release. I’m not a native speaker.
- refurb 3y agoThat’s a poor attempt at gaslighting. Nobody is offended. It’s just silly.
- xtiansimon 3y ago(Variable) naming is hard. Hehe. Seriously. I work in accounting and also do scripting and IT support. For a group who has to be precise with numbers, they’re frustratingly vague with words. Some of us got it, and some of us don’t.
- Nullabillity 3y agoIt's not even an edge case. An "old school" absentee working dad is a parent, but not a child-raiser. The OP even touches upon this, calling out male child-raisers as exceptions while I'm sure you'll agree that roughly half of all parents are male. When that's the topic at hand we should keep those distinctions in mind.
- helboi4 3y agofr this is literally the first thing I thought of and I'm probably one of these extreme libs people think they're fighting here. I literally didn't consider any reason for using this phrase other than that both parents don't usually have equal child raising responsibilities. that's a perfectly normal traditional nuclear family situation.