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> I got a $90K bonus that year That's why they liked google.

roenxi 3y ago
I see you've attracted at least 2 downvotes. Never really gotten any insight into the minds of the downvoters myself - and in this case you can only be right. It isn't like the current wave of blog posts are talking about the wonderful place Google is in culturally. They're pointing out that Google - under the stewardship of people who've been at Google for a long time - is converging to the corporate culture mean. If they're working at a company and they're just watching it drift to the mean, we can safely conclude that they're in it for the money. Nothing wrong with that, but let us not get distracted by razzle-dazzle on the side. People work because they get paid.
- pgeorgi 3y ago
  It's moving from "paying the bills plus ..." to "paying the bills". Since the latter is _kinda_ important, it's difficult to let go when the "plus ..." part has left the building (and stopping that from happening is beyond the management level of most) - moreso, when there's no obvious place it went to that you could follow.
  - roenxi 3y ago
    The plus was contributing to the spying-censorship advertising machine vortex thing that is Google. Google was - still is - a lot more responsible than most companies with that responsibility. But the risks are high and obvious. How good are these people at assessing this "plus"? I'd rather just be in it for the money if I were involved in Google. Being in it for the money is a respectable thing.
    - pgeorgi 3y ago
      Not sure if people consider "contributing to the spying-censorship advertising machine vortex thing" a benefit based on which they choose their career preferences. It's more "pays the bills plus doesn't consider you merely a cost center", "pays the bills plus lets you try weird stuff of your interest with ~unlimited infrastructure at your disposal". _That_ was the appeal of Google. Not anymore. On the other hand, the advertising machine (however you want to characterize it) is still alive and kicking, so that part isn't gone.
frou_dh 3y ago
Who knew psychological analysis was as easy as homing in on a sensational tidbit? Masterful stuff. /s

I see you've attracted at least 2 downvotes. Never really gotten any insight into the minds of the downvoters myself - and in this case you can only be right. It isn't like the current wave of blog posts are talking about the wonderful place Google is in culturally. They're pointing out that Google - under the stewardship of people who've been at Google for a long time - is converging to the corporate culture mean. If they're working at a company and they're just watching it drift to the mean, we can safely conclude that they're in it for the money. Nothing wrong with that, but let us not get distracted by razzle-dazzle on the side. People work because they get paid.

pgeorgi 3y ago
It's moving from "paying the bills plus ..." to "paying the bills". Since the latter is _kinda_ important, it's difficult to let go when the "plus ..." part has left the building (and stopping that from happening is beyond the management level of most) - moreso, when there's no obvious place it went to that you could follow.
- roenxi 3y ago
  The plus was contributing to the spying-censorship advertising machine vortex thing that is Google. Google was - still is - a lot more responsible than most companies with that responsibility. But the risks are high and obvious. How good are these people at assessing this "plus"? I'd rather just be in it for the money if I were involved in Google. Being in it for the money is a respectable thing.
  - pgeorgi 3y ago
    Not sure if people consider "contributing to the spying-censorship advertising machine vortex thing" a benefit based on which they choose their career preferences. It's more "pays the bills plus doesn't consider you merely a cost center", "pays the bills plus lets you try weird stuff of your interest with ~unlimited infrastructure at your disposal". _That_ was the appeal of Google. Not anymore. On the other hand, the advertising machine (however you want to characterize it) is still alive and kicking, so that part isn't gone.

frou_dh 3y ago

Who knew psychological analysis was as easy as homing in on a sensational tidbit? Masterful stuff. /s