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> had such a hard time researching autism after someone mentioned it might apply to me because I found most articles to be very stigmatizing. > I question whet
by faeriechangling 3y ago
> had such a hard time researching autism after someone mentioned it might apply to me because I found most articles to be very stigmatizing.
> I question whether pathologizing differences is that useful.
Homosexuality was first referred to as a "Sexual Deviation" and a "Sociopathic personality disturbance". It's no longer considered a disorder.
Transgenderism (Transsexualism) was referred to as a "psychosexual disorder" or "gender identity disorder". It's no longer considered a disorder but gender dysphoria still is.
Autism is still a disorder, and nothing but a disorder. Autism is defined medically, wholly by weakness, as if that's all autism is. Something we should maybe cure one day, or come up with a pre-natal test for so be can have abortions to ensure such people aren't born.
The "Gold standard" treatment for autism Adaptive Behaviour Analysis has some common heritage between the treatment of Autism and Transgenderism, which involved using adversives (torture), to get people to act in a more gender conforming or less autistic way. I still think about that. If you use essentially the same treatment to modify the behavour of a transgender person or an autistic person, if you do it to the former it's a hate crime, if you do it to the latter it's a medical necessity[1]. I find that VERY revealing as to medicines attitude towards the Autistic, that they are the broken ones who need to change to fit our glorious and perfect society.
The pathologization of Autism is a crime against humanity and probably the first or second most evil thing that has happened to me throughout my entire life. Autism wasn't always a pathology - go 50 years back and nobody considered Autistic here would be considered Autistic by a doctor, wouldn't be considered "Disordered" by their peers, they might have been considered odd but not disordered. Nowadays, there's too much money in pathologizing people as disordered, everybody from parents to schools to doctors to social workers to the autistic people themselves benefit.
I see the status quo as fucked up and firmly believe modern psychiatry has greatly compromised Autistics quality of life through their hateful views on Autism which rub off on the wider popuation. When these esteemed medical experts call you disordered - why shouldn't everybody else think you are?
The way forward I see is how we handled homosexuality and transgenderism - de-pathologise being different from other people - but diagnose people with mental conditions that impair quality of life which are associated with Autism - and use those diagnosis's to allocate support and funding. This model also lets you make more sense of things like how both the richest man in the world and profoundly disabled people who can't hold down a job could both be "Autistic".
[1]ABA is not necessarily evil, it's more how it's used for the purpose of making autistics less autistic or transgender people less transgender which is philosophically fucked up
- xwolfi 3y agoConformance is an advantage, a way to progress and get what you need or want. I feel weird reading people saying that it would be wrong to try to help people with trouble conforming, conform: what would be the alternative ? Realistically, tolerating differences can only go so far as the other tolerates it: autists and transgenders have similar issues in accepting that the wider society is different from them and the compromise has to start at both ends. And I think nobody's really asking anyone to actually change behavior, but simply to hide it better in temporary/crisis/exceptional situations. For instance, I think homosexuality's long combat to marry, a very VERY conforming demand, is helping it move away from the view others had of it being a non-conforming sexual behavior. Nobody's talking anymore of the physical act, the actual difference, but instead we talk about their attempt to conform, and it's very hard to find arguments against it.
- justinator 3y ago>homosexuality's long combat to marry What are you talking about? Gay people want to and indeed do: marry all the time. It's the government that oftentimes makes such an act illegal and fails to gives the privileges of a lawful union that straight people are given without any issue. Gay people also want to raise children - to put plainly: they just want to pursue a happy life like anyone else.
- xwolfi 3y agoMarrying is a government assurance that your assets will be distributed to the person you signed the marriage contract with upon your death, nothing much more. The government MUST accept it, it s the ONLY value of marriage: it is not an "act", it s a legal contract. Ofc it s stupid not to make it happen, and it has been a long combat. Most of humanity doesnt allow it yet, and maybe from the comfort of where you type from, it's done and away, but here in China, it an exhausting fight. What were you finding so strange in saying it was a long combat ? I see 100 years at least before it happens here.
- justinator 3y ago