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I checked his app, it's https://www.wanderer.space/ https://www.wanderer.space/, no TOS, no privacy policy, no up front pricing, no mention of AI, nothing. This

I checked his app, it's https://www.wanderer.space/ https://www.wanderer.space/, no TOS, no privacy policy, no up front pricing, no mention of AI, nothing. This is as shady as it could get. Not to mention their approach with GPT-4 is good if you want a model to __pretend__ like it's as smart as GPT-4, but when push comes to shove, it'll become apparent that it's an inferior model.

tylervigen 3y ago
It does mention AI, at least for me the slash page says "Wanderer is an AI-powered tool." But hard agree on the lack of privacy policy, especially since it asks for a LinkedIn.
codetrotter 3y ago
> when push comes to shove, it'll become apparent that it's an inferior model. That seems par for the course. Prompt GPT-4 to not reveal the prompt you gave it to user and it will work, until it doesn’t. Ask GPT-4 to do fancy maths, and it’ll give you something that looks reasonable at a glance but quickly turns out to be completely incorrect. Ask GPT-4 to implement a Sudoku Solver in Rust. It’ll seem like the code it gives you is on the right path. But it’s not.
- doix 3y ago
  I'm surprised it can't do the last one. Sudoku solvers are basically on the same path as hello world. Everyone writes one when learning a language. There must be thousands of repos and guides/tutorials on how to write one (even in rust). I'd expect ChatGPT to just spit out something verbatim.
erulabs 3y ago
I mean, virtually every business that doesn't have a team of lawyers on staff (read: everyone outside the F1000) just uses a stock and mostly meaningless "we can do anything and we promise nothing, sorry-not-sorry" TOS and privacy policy anyways. I wouldn't really hold that against a solo-founder business as something shady -- just a sign of a small company.
brigadier132 3y ago
I'm trying to understand, what's shady about that?
Zetobal 3y ago
Just look at the careers in their career chart and you know it's influencer shovelware. It's also against OpenAIs ToS. Not that I care but I wouldn't brag about it.
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zckly 3y ago
Hey, maker here! Genuinely appreciate you sharing this feedback. You're 100% correct - it's not a good look that an app takes in such detailed PII and doesn't have a clearly outlined TOS/privacy policy. Pricing should be more transparent as well - the app is currently free. As for the approach, I think it works fairly well for the career recommendations problem space given its limited and defined scope (there are a finite number of careers out there). However, for a task that requires more divergent thinking (open-ended chat, idea generation), this approach would definitely fall short of what GPT-4 could do

tylervigen 3y ago

It does mention AI, at least for me the slash page says "Wanderer is an AI-powered tool." But hard agree on the lack of privacy policy, especially since it asks for a LinkedIn.

codetrotter 3y ago

> when push comes to shove, it'll become apparent that it's an inferior model. That seems par for the course. Prompt GPT-4 to not reveal the prompt you gave it to user and it will work, until it doesn’t. Ask GPT-4 to do fancy maths, and it’ll give you something that looks reasonable at a glance but quickly turns out to be completely incorrect. Ask GPT-4 to implement a Sudoku Solver in Rust. It’ll seem like the code it gives you is on the right path. But it’s not.

doix 3y ago
I'm surprised it can't do the last one. Sudoku solvers are basically on the same path as hello world. Everyone writes one when learning a language. There must be thousands of repos and guides/tutorials on how to write one (even in rust). I'd expect ChatGPT to just spit out something verbatim.

erulabs 3y ago

I mean, virtually every business that doesn't have a team of lawyers on staff (read: everyone outside the F1000) just uses a stock and mostly meaningless "we can do anything and we promise nothing, sorry-not-sorry" TOS and privacy policy anyways. I wouldn't really hold that against a solo-founder business as something shady -- just a sign of a small company.

brigadier132 3y ago

I'm trying to understand, what's shady about that?

Zetobal 3y ago

Just look at the careers in their career chart and you know it's influencer shovelware. It's also against OpenAIs ToS. Not that I care but I wouldn't brag about it.

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zckly 3y ago

Hey, maker here! Genuinely appreciate you sharing this feedback. You're 100% correct - it's not a good look that an app takes in such detailed PII and doesn't have a clearly outlined TOS/privacy policy. Pricing should be more transparent as well - the app is currently free. As for the approach, I think it works fairly well for the career recommendations problem space given its limited and defined scope (there are a finite number of careers out there). However, for a task that requires more divergent thinking (open-ended chat, idea generation), this approach would definitely fall short of what GPT-4 could do