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> new oil field I was surprised because I assumed Norway wouldn’t open new oil fields. I’d say it’s “interesting,” but what I actually mean isn’t publishable.
by bertil 3y ago
> new oil field
I was surprised because I assumed Norway wouldn’t open new oil fields. I’d say it’s “interesting,” but what I actually mean isn’t publishable.
- tordrt 3y agoWhy wouldnt Norway open new oil fields?
- belval 3y agoHot take, but I feel like Norway gets greenwashed a lot as better than everywhere else, when they are basically a northern Saudi Arabia in terms of exports with over 70% of their exports being oil and gas.
- Invictus0 3y agoNorway is a beautiful modern liberal democracy, Saudi Arabia is a theocratic desert dictatorship hellhole.
- seb1204 3y agoHaving been to both countries I fully agree. However the GP had a point in that the public image of Norway is hydro power and 90% EVs nowadays. The fact that they are a major oil and gas exporter is not as widespread.
- tordrt 3y agoIs it more immoral to export oil and gas than to actually burn it? Norway is hydro power and a lot of EVs.
- defrost 3y agoThe age old question of the ethical heroin dealer. Does not selling to the local school while riding an electric scooter make it alright?
- Invictus0 3y agoComparing oil to heroin is beyond stupid. It's an essential good responsible for 30% of the world's energy needs. If oil disappeared from the earth tomorrow, entire nations would grind to a halt and millions would die.
- defrost 3y agoI'm sorry, are you unaware of the medical uses for the opium poppy and the millions that would die | experience great pain without it? It's not an exact analgy, sure .. but to describe it as "beyond stupid" is certainly less than bright.
- tordrt 3y agoOpium does not save lives, it's a painkiller. And it is not the same at all. If millions would die if people stopped selling medical opium, I am sure you would argue it unethical to stop production of it before there was anything to replace it. I would say a better analogy is selling alcohol to an alcoholic because you can't just cut off the supply right away because they could die from the abstinence symptoms. You need to get them off their dependency slowly. In this case, you need to decrease their dependency on oil and gas slowly and replace it with clean alternatives, which are currently way too expensive for the developing world. Countries would literally go to war tomorrow if they lost their supply of oil and gas.
- gettodachoppa 3y agoSmug westerners love to say that stuff, and yet people in Saudi Arabia are much happier than Norwegians. The rate of suicide is double in Norway what it is in Saudi Arabia. I guess there's more to a country and people's worth than their willingness to fly LGBT flags?
- brohee 3y agoSaudi Arabia age distribution got absolutely nothing to do with it obviously. Nor does the taboo on suicide can possibly lead to suicide being reported as accidents...
- stubish 3y agoGreenwashed a lot better? A lot better than whom? Which countries are more deserving of Norway's perceived status as one of the greenest nations?
- graemep 3y agoAnywhere that does not export huge amounts of oil and gas.
- burkaman 3y agoReally depends on what you mean by green, but here's one methodology: https://epi.yale.edu/epi-results/2022/component/epi https://epi.yale.edu/epi-results/2022/component/epi
- stubish 3y agoSo 20th, not bad but not the best. Some surprising countries before it, such as Australia. And UK number 2. This does seem to back up the OP.