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That solution doesn't sound great. Consider these situations: * User is on p.54, turns the page, and now they are on ... ? * User tells a friend: 'Look at th

That solution doesn't sound great. Consider these situations: * User is on p.54, turns the page, and now they are on ... ? * User tells a friend: 'Look at the second paragraph of p.54'. Friend: 'I'm looking, I don't see it'. User: 'Oh, the other p.54' ...

eviks 3y ago
Page turning would change two numbers, one of them would always increment by 1 But the same issues exist today with PDF since you have page count (more visible since it's usually permanently visible in the app) and page labels, which are often different and thus can confuse your friend (by the way, does 2nd paragraph count include the last line of the previous paragraph at the top or does it start count at first full paragraph?) (The better solution of more precise, e.g., per-paragraph, marks is, I think, also easier outside of PDF since PDFs don't retain text structure, only its visual position)
- wolverine876 3y ago
  > Page turning would change two numbers, one of them would always increment by 1 I don't think most end-users will like that. > But the same issues exist today with PDF since you have page count (more visible since it's usually permanently visible in the app) and page labels Yes, not a good situation, so why duplicate it elsewhere? Anyway, if I say 'page 545', IME people understand it's the document's page number and not the PDF page count.
  - eviks 3y ago
    If you have such understating people they'd have no issues understanding that there are two systems of coordinates in the new format just like in PDF (reader page vs writer page / absolute page vs writer page) But you don't need to duplicate it, all I was saying is PDF as exists has no benefits here. Also, speaking of columns, when you reflow page to fit the narrow screen, you can simply make the same page longer instead of splitying, then you can have your same single writer page number. Basically, it's a non-issue for format comparison purposes, you can make UI whatever you like (unless it's PDF where nothing can reflow)
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      Pagination is preserved in PDFs, even if the page numbering is complicated. > when you reflow page to fit the narrow screen, you can simply make the same page longer instead of splitying, then you can have your same single writer page number. You could do that, but IME, formats/apps besides PDF don't preserve pagination. Consistency across platforms, applications, etc. is hard.

eviks 3y ago

Page turning would change two numbers, one of them would always increment by 1 But the same issues exist today with PDF since you have page count (more visible since it's usually permanently visible in the app) and page labels, which are often different and thus can confuse your friend (by the way, does 2nd paragraph count include the last line of the previous paragraph at the top or does it start count at first full paragraph?) (The better solution of more precise, e.g., per-paragraph, marks is, I think, also easier outside of PDF since PDFs don't retain text structure, only its visual position)

wolverine876 3y ago
> Page turning would change two numbers, one of them would always increment by 1 I don't think most end-users will like that. > But the same issues exist today with PDF since you have page count (more visible since it's usually permanently visible in the app) and page labels Yes, not a good situation, so why duplicate it elsewhere? Anyway, if I say 'page 545', IME people understand it's the document's page number and not the PDF page count.
- eviks 3y ago
  If you have such understating people they'd have no issues understanding that there are two systems of coordinates in the new format just like in PDF (reader page vs writer page / absolute page vs writer page) But you don't need to duplicate it, all I was saying is PDF as exists has no benefits here. Also, speaking of columns, when you reflow page to fit the narrow screen, you can simply make the same page longer instead of splitying, then you can have your same single writer page number. Basically, it's a non-issue for format comparison purposes, you can make UI whatever you like (unless it's PDF where nothing can reflow)
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    Pagination is preserved in PDFs, even if the page numbering is complicated. > when you reflow page to fit the narrow screen, you can simply make the same page longer instead of splitying, then you can have your same single writer page number. You could do that, but IME, formats/apps besides PDF don't preserve pagination. Consistency across platforms, applications, etc. is hard.