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This thread is the first time I'm hearing this definition. Self hosting has always meant using your own hardware. Cloud/VPS/VMs/shared hosting or whatever else

by paxys 3y ago

This thread is the first time I'm hearing this definition. Self hosting has always meant using your own hardware. Cloud/VPS/VMs/shared hosting or whatever else have never qualified.

layer8 3y ago
For me it’s the opposite: VPS are the standard solution, since it’s difficult to self-host behind a consumer ISP. Wikipedia seems to agree [0]: “The practice of self-hosting web services became more feasible with the development of cloud computing and virtualization technologies, which enabled users to run their own servers on remote hardware or virtual machines.” [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)
- paxys 3y ago
  Going by this definition a company running their services on a cluster of EC2 instances is also "self-hosting", which makes the term meaningless.
  - layer8 3y ago
    See this older version of the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20170727020916/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting#Website_management https://web.archive.org/web/20170727020916/https://en.wikipe... The original difference was between using a service like WordPress vs. running an instance of the WordPress software yourself. Who owns the hardware it’s running on or where it is located is largely irrelevant for the definition. Here is another reference: https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/self-hosting.htm https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/self-hosting.htm
icedchai 3y ago
I always viewed self-hosting as "shades of gray." The person running Wordpress on a VPS or EC2 instance, as opposed to Wordpress.com, is self-hosting. They have to configure the software. The person running it on a bare metal server in his basement, even more so: both software and hardware. They still both qualify, one is just more extreme.

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This thread is the first time I'm hearing this definition. Self hosting has always meant using your own hardware. Cloud/VPS/VMs/shared hosting or whatever else

by paxys 3y ago

This thread is the first time I'm hearing this definition. Self hosting has always meant using your own hardware. Cloud/VPS/VMs/shared hosting or whatever else have never qualified.

layer8 3y ago
For me it’s the opposite: VPS are the standard solution, since it’s difficult to self-host behind a consumer ISP. Wikipedia seems to agree [0]: “The practice of self-hosting web services became more feasible with the development of cloud computing and virtualization technologies, which enabled users to run their own servers on remote hardware or virtual machines.” [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)
- paxys 3y ago
  Going by this definition a company running their services on a cluster of EC2 instances is also "self-hosting", which makes the term meaningless.
  - layer8 3y ago
    See this older version of the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20170727020916/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting#Website_management https://web.archive.org/web/20170727020916/https://en.wikipe... The original difference was between using a service like WordPress vs. running an instance of the WordPress software yourself. Who owns the hardware it’s running on or where it is located is largely irrelevant for the definition. Here is another reference: https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/self-hosting.htm https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/self-hosting.htm
icedchai 3y ago
I always viewed self-hosting as "shades of gray." The person running Wordpress on a VPS or EC2 instance, as opposed to Wordpress.com, is self-hosting. They have to configure the software. The person running it on a bare metal server in his basement, even more so: both software and hardware. They still both qualify, one is just more extreme.