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https://reviewed.usatoday.com/ovens/features/we-tried-an-oven-that-cooks-by-listening-to-your-food-and-its-amazing-miele-dialog https://reviewed.usatoday.com/ov

by gwern 3y ago

https://reviewed.usatoday.com/ovens/features/we-tried-an-oven-that-cooks-by-listening-to-your-food-and-its-amazing-miele-dialog https://reviewed.usatoday.com/ovens/features/we-tried-an-ove... is a much better writeup. It seems to be a directional microwave, where it monitors how much microwave gets reflected back as a proxy for how much is being absorbed by the food in each spot, so it can ramp up/down the power as necessary to deliver the requested amount of energy. Pretty neat.

yetanotherloser 3y ago
that has some weird parallels with modern military radar. Also, I didn't want one when I read their marketing page, but now I'm intrigued.
- evilduck 3y ago
  It ought to, microwave ovens have roots to obsolete military radar too.
JaggedJax 3y ago
Reading their copy and looking at the photos I was pretty sure it was microwave based since that was the only thing that fit with it heating "evenly throughout," the bland colors, and lack of any burning or charring. Given this, I wonder how the flavor will turn out in these dishes. Traditionally microwaving fish and steak aren't the tastiest ways to prepare them, but maybe the improved control solves that problem somewhat?
- jfengel 3y ago
  Microwaving is bad for steak, since steak really benefits from a browned exterior. It's actually an OK way to prepare many fish, though. Many fish have a delicate flavor that would be overwhelmed by browning, and also a delicate texture that would fall apart in most applications that would brown them. Poaching is a common way to gently raise the temperature of such fish until just cooked through, and you can emulate that in a microwave. Put them in a glass pan, add some water and flavorings (herbs, lemon, etc), and nuke until cooked through. That's applied mostly to smaller, whiter fish, and to salmon. The bigger and redder fish like tuna, shark, etc. are more likely to be cooked the way steak is -- often not just rare, but raw in the center. Anyway... I dunno if a $10,000 fancy microwave would be worth it as a glorified fish poacher.
mherdeg 3y ago
Was this the premise of the pilot episode of 30 Rock? The trivection oven?
wefarrell 3y ago
"The truth is, it’s actually difficult for any microwave oven to melt ice. That’s because solids tend to transmit, rather than absorb microwaves, and because the hydrogen bonds in ice are stronger than (and harder to induce vibration/heating in) those of liquid water" Interesting
CoopaTroopa 3y ago
>That’s because the Dialog’s underlying technology is based on medical devices used to reheat donated organs that are kept cold for transport. The first guy to make the jump from heating donor organs to heating your food probably got a couple of weird looks. I wonder if there was any viewing the Silence of the Lambs before the connection was made.
dang 3y ago
Ok, we've changed to that URL from https://www.miele.com/brand/en/revolutionary-excellence-38683.htm https://www.miele.com/brand/en/revolutionary-excellence-3868.... Thanks!

by gwern 3y ago

yetanotherloser 3y ago

that has some weird parallels with modern military radar. Also, I didn't want one when I read their marketing page, but now I'm intrigued.

evilduck 3y ago
It ought to, microwave ovens have roots to obsolete military radar too.

JaggedJax 3y ago

Reading their copy and looking at the photos I was pretty sure it was microwave based since that was the only thing that fit with it heating "evenly throughout," the bland colors, and lack of any burning or charring. Given this, I wonder how the flavor will turn out in these dishes. Traditionally microwaving fish and steak aren't the tastiest ways to prepare them, but maybe the improved control solves that problem somewhat?

jfengel 3y ago
Microwaving is bad for steak, since steak really benefits from a browned exterior. It's actually an OK way to prepare many fish, though. Many fish have a delicate flavor that would be overwhelmed by browning, and also a delicate texture that would fall apart in most applications that would brown them. Poaching is a common way to gently raise the temperature of such fish until just cooked through, and you can emulate that in a microwave. Put them in a glass pan, add some water and flavorings (herbs, lemon, etc), and nuke until cooked through. That's applied mostly to smaller, whiter fish, and to salmon. The bigger and redder fish like tuna, shark, etc. are more likely to be cooked the way steak is -- often not just rare, but raw in the center. Anyway... I dunno if a $10,000 fancy microwave would be worth it as a glorified fish poacher.

mherdeg 3y ago

Was this the premise of the pilot episode of 30 Rock? The trivection oven?

wefarrell 3y ago

"The truth is, it’s actually difficult for any microwave oven to melt ice. That’s because solids tend to transmit, rather than absorb microwaves, and because the hydrogen bonds in ice are stronger than (and harder to induce vibration/heating in) those of liquid water" Interesting

CoopaTroopa 3y ago

>That’s because the Dialog’s underlying technology is based on medical devices used to reheat donated organs that are kept cold for transport. The first guy to make the jump from heating donor organs to heating your food probably got a couple of weird looks. I wonder if there was any viewing the Silence of the Lambs before the connection was made.

dang 3y ago

Ok, we've changed to that URL from https://www.miele.com/brand/en/revolutionary-excellence-38683.htm https://www.miele.com/brand/en/revolutionary-excellence-3868.... Thanks!