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> there is no better alternative If your primary device is Android, please check out Ente[1]. We are an E2EE alternative to Google Photos. We had launched on

> there is no better alternative If your primary device is Android, please check out Ente[1]. We are an E2EE alternative to Google Photos. We had launched on HN[2] a while ago, and have been working towards feature parity. We aren't "there" yet, but hope to soon be. If you've any feedback, please share it with vishnu@ente.io, I'd be grateful! [1]: https://ente.io https://ente.io [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28347439 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28347439

SushiHippie 3y ago
This does look good, but it does not seem to be self-hostable. Though this may be a good alternative for people that do not care about hosting their own services!
tourmalinetaco 3y ago
Have there been any considerations for self-hosting? I understand that is your “secret sauce”, in a way, but I thoroughly believe there’s a compromise here. Perhaps offering source code via GitHub (with no binaries) and then offer the full source code + binaries via purchasable licenses? Similar to TagSpaces business model of selling binaries to their app, while maintaining it openly on GitHub: https://www.tagspaces.org/products/ https://www.tagspaces.org/products/ https://github.com/tagspaces/tagspaces https://github.com/tagspaces/tagspaces Either way, will definitely be keeping an eye on your app, it seems ducking cool ;)
- vishnumohandas 3y ago
  Thank you! Ente was first a piece of hardware, then a self-host-able project, but we had a hard time monetizing both, which lead to the E2EE pivot. TIL about TagSpaces, thanks! Our server can be open-sourced, but we're unsure of the value E2EE will provide, with services like Photoprism[1] and Immich[2] already doing a good job of serving customers who prefer to self host. In this context E2EE might become a constraint, rather than a feature. [1]: https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism [2]: https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich

SushiHippie 3y ago

This does look good, but it does not seem to be self-hostable. Though this may be a good alternative for people that do not care about hosting their own services!

tourmalinetaco 3y ago

Have there been any considerations for self-hosting? I understand that is your “secret sauce”, in a way, but I thoroughly believe there’s a compromise here. Perhaps offering source code via GitHub (with no binaries) and then offer the full source code + binaries via purchasable licenses? Similar to TagSpaces business model of selling binaries to their app, while maintaining it openly on GitHub: https://www.tagspaces.org/products/ https://www.tagspaces.org/products/ https://github.com/tagspaces/tagspaces https://github.com/tagspaces/tagspaces Either way, will definitely be keeping an eye on your app, it seems ducking cool ;)

vishnumohandas 3y ago
Thank you! Ente was first a piece of hardware, then a self-host-able project, but we had a hard time monetizing both, which lead to the E2EE pivot. TIL about TagSpaces, thanks! Our server can be open-sourced, but we're unsure of the value E2EE will provide, with services like Photoprism[1] and Immich[2] already doing a good job of serving customers who prefer to self host. In this context E2EE might become a constraint, rather than a feature. [1]: https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism [2]: https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich