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Meta's AR/VR strategy is still the over-arching priority and given how well Quest 3 and Ray Bans glasses are doing shows that it is likely the right one. Especi

Meta's AR/VR strategy is still the over-arching priority and given how well Quest 3 and Ray Bans glasses are doing shows that it is likely the right one. Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. AI will be used to enhance that e.g. generated avatars, autonomous agents, hand/body tracking etc.

aabhay 3y ago
How well are the Ray Bans doing? I’ve never heard anyone talk about them nor seen anyone wearing them.
- threeseed 3y ago
  Surprisingly well. Strong adoption by the younger TikTok generation which is an area that Meta has been desperate to bring back into their fold. Also the product is pretty impressive. The camera quality is really good and the AI features genuinely useful. Definitely caused many in the industry to wonder if that form factor could be the future of the AR industry in the short term as well as the long term.
  - aabhay 3y ago
    Doesn’t seem to be the case —- https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stories-smart-glasses-retention-reality-labs https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stor... Less than 10% retention after two years.
ben_w 3y ago
> Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. I may be repeating my own errors with the following as I said much the same for the iPhone and the Apple Watch when they were new, but… The prices Apple are asking for seem excessive given what the products actually do, surely the cheaper alternatives are going to be what really matters? (In this case, cheaper alternatives would include the Meta headsets).
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- hindsightbias 3y ago
  Cheaper than an 8K OLED. Watched a guy spend $6K on iPads for his kids like it was a stocking stuffer. Took 15 minutes as he had to call the wife on if 1TB was enough. Felt bad I was just buying an Air so wandered to let the sales kid work him. Kid said it was an overage day.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    Mmm. You've just reminded me how weird I am with money. Back in 2000-ish, a summer holiday job I was doing for an hourly pay of… I can't remember exactly, but perhaps the equivalent of £10k/year for the full-timers… one of my coworkers said he'd bought a plasma TV for his 1- or 2-year old son. Those things were considered expensive luxuries back then. I guess people like him are the norm.
ethbr1 3y ago
> Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. Ah, yes, the inevitability of Apple success. Just as everyone switched from cell phones to PDAs after 1993.
- blackoil 3y ago
  Wow, you must go back 30 years to find a failure. That's hugely impressive. If we squint enough we can add FireWire to that.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    There's a train of Apple misses. Hindsight is success after success, because we only remember the successful and final versions of products. Generally, they get it right a lot of the time. More than others! But argumentum ad Apple to convince of the inevitability of technological shifts is insane.

aabhay 3y ago

How well are the Ray Bans doing? I’ve never heard anyone talk about them nor seen anyone wearing them.

threeseed 3y ago
Surprisingly well. Strong adoption by the younger TikTok generation which is an area that Meta has been desperate to bring back into their fold. Also the product is pretty impressive. The camera quality is really good and the AI features genuinely useful. Definitely caused many in the industry to wonder if that form factor could be the future of the AR industry in the short term as well as the long term.
- aabhay 3y ago
  Doesn’t seem to be the case —- https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stories-smart-glasses-retention-reality-labs https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stor... Less than 10% retention after two years.

ben_w 3y ago

> Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. I may be repeating my own errors with the following as I said much the same for the iPhone and the Apple Watch when they were new, but… The prices Apple are asking for seem excessive given what the products actually do, surely the cheaper alternatives are going to be what really matters? (In this case, cheaper alternatives would include the Meta headsets).

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hindsightbias 3y ago
Cheaper than an 8K OLED. Watched a guy spend $6K on iPads for his kids like it was a stocking stuffer. Took 15 minutes as he had to call the wife on if 1TB was enough. Felt bad I was just buying an Air so wandered to let the sales kid work him. Kid said it was an overage day.
- ben_w 3y ago
  Mmm. You've just reminded me how weird I am with money. Back in 2000-ish, a summer holiday job I was doing for an hourly pay of… I can't remember exactly, but perhaps the equivalent of £10k/year for the full-timers… one of my coworkers said he'd bought a plasma TV for his 1- or 2-year old son. Those things were considered expensive luxuries back then. I guess people like him are the norm.

ethbr1 3y ago

> Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. Ah, yes, the inevitability of Apple success. Just as everyone switched from cell phones to PDAs after 1993.

blackoil 3y ago
Wow, you must go back 30 years to find a failure. That's hugely impressive. If we squint enough we can add FireWire to that.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  There's a train of Apple misses. Hindsight is success after success, because we only remember the successful and final versions of products. Generally, they get it right a lot of the time. More than others! But argumentum ad Apple to convince of the inevitability of technological shifts is insane.