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Ok, so I have a point to make. I don't quite understand how, whenever porn is discussed, all the HN community gets very rational about it and we start discussin
by why-el 15y ago
Ok, so I have a point to make. I don't quite understand how, whenever porn is discussed, all the HN community gets very rational about it and we start discussing it as if it was a normal product. It is absolutely not. It is not what human beings are and it degrades women (And increasingly, trends in porn change only in one way: How they degrade women). It is also dull, and repetitive, despite their sad attempts to innovate; there is a finite number of sexual positions, and you can only go past that once you establish the fact that women will choose to degrade themselves and go with it, which the makers (men, always) happily decide its the case.
So yes, as a hacker, there things to learn from the porn industry (scaling, traffic analysis..),but its effect on society and its subjugation of half of said society far outweigh those few technological insights.
- kiba 15y agoYou said it degrade women, but you don't explain how.
- zerostar07 15y agoLooks like you don't watch porn lately.
- drumdance 15y agoAnd you didn't provide an answer either.
- zerostar07 15y agoWell, humiliated.com has a girls section but not boys
- icebraining 15y agoAnd FemaleDom.com only has women dominating men. So?
- why-el 15y agoYou can always go to a porn website and search for words that convey degradation (rape, rough, bad words men call women,..). Nowadays they are quite explicit about it, not even bothering with visual metaphors.
- kiba 15y agoYou are very selective in what you watch, I guess.
- why-el 15y agoI actually don't. I am not sure why you would assume I do. I am in a very healthy relationship. But I did research on it for a paper. I also discuss this matters with my girlfriend and several other people who have growing concerns over the escalating violence (or at least the showing of it) in the porn industry.
- mikeash 15y agoBeing in a healthy relationship does not exclude the possibility of consuming pornography. That you seem to think it does is a bit odd, and makes me think you don't really understand how this stuff works.
- why-el 15y agoWhat stuff? And of course it does not exclude the possibility of consuming porn (The only situation that does is not having internet or TV). But I don't watch porn and I don't think I need to given my current life style and personal principles. As simple as that.
- jaredsohn 15y ago>(The only situation that does is not having internet or TV) There are plenty of other ways to consume porn beyond this (magazines, books, theaters, consuming internet/TV via other people.)
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- icebraining 15y agoThere's an increasing number of women watching porn - 1 in 3 porn viewers according to Nielsen - or making porn without receiving financial compensation (so, not because they need the money). Who are we to say that we know better than them what does or doesn't degrade them? That feels extremely patronizing.
- capsule_toy 15y agoI would like to hear the numbers behind your arguments. I would be very surprised if highly degrading porn is more popular compared to amateur or gonzo. Simply because it exists does not mean it represents a popular trend emerging in pornography. You seem to believe that women deciding to be dominated sexually must be subjugated, and that her choice is a result of the oppressiveness of our society. Many women would find that view very offensive.
- why-el 15y agoI actually agree with your first part, and as I said, its an increasing trend, not necessarily the most popular. But that still worries me. But I disagree when you say women deciding to be dominated. I don't see how one can decide to be dominated. If we follow this argument that we can say that men and women in a China factory decided to work 16 hours a day, conveying the idea that there is nothing wrong with it.
- jaredsohn 15y ago>I don't see how one can decide to be dominated. Read up on "dominance and submission" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_and_submission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_and_submission).
- moe 15y agoIt is not what human beings are It seems about 30% of all internet traffic disagrees with you. Yes, that's bigger than youtube. but its effect on society and its subjugation of half of said society far outweigh those few technological insights. Then our society is doomed! Or perhaps it's just you being a little prude?
- derleth 15y agoPornography reduces sex crimes: http://www.springerlink.com/content/v046j3g178147772/fulltext.html http://www.springerlink.com/content/v046j3g178147772/fulltex... > it degrades women But not men? Also, how do you decide when someone else is being degraded? Should they also get to decide when you're being degraded?
- why-el 15y agoMen also, but to a far lesser degree.