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I don’t know why they name stuff what they do, but it’s dumb to simply read the name of something and then make assumptions based on no further information abou

by ok_dad 3y ago

I don’t know why they name stuff what they do, but it’s dumb to simply read the name of something and then make assumptions based on no further information about that thing. Maybe you should have read the Wikipedia about it before assuming stuff?

toast0 3y ago
Well, that doesn't really help, because Wikipedia says > A land value tax (LVT) is a levy on the value of land without regard to buildings, personal property and other improvements upon it. In my mind, the value of the land without regard to buildings, etc, is what you would pay for an empty lot. But you said the value is what you would pay for the lot with improvements. Theoretically, real estate property taxes I've paid have been divided into the land value and the improvements value (although it's mostly conjecture; the total value is all that matters and that generally approximates market value of the lot with the improvements, at least in CA and WA, where I've paid property taxes; although CA has Prop 13 that distorts assessments over time). Washington even states the land portion is assessed based on the best use, not the current use, unless it's in some special categories like farm, forestry, and open space. Now I'm even more confused. Which speaks to the GP's confusion. > I have yet to understand why people have made land value tax a thing. If the whole concept is so confusing, starting with the name, it's no wonder advocacy isn't effective.
AnimalMuppet 3y ago
Not everybody does a half-hour of research before every HN comment. Nor should they be expected to. LVT was named (I presume) by the advocates of it. If their name is misleading, don't blame the people reading it who are getting confused.
- ok_dad 3y ago
  A person can read about it in maybe ten minutes max, and if someone can’t even do half an hour of research, anyways, should they even comment? Do people have the right to a conversation simply because they read the article title yet have not read even at the surface level about that topic?
  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    Well, how much research have you done on the quality of discussion board topics, and how much time people should spend on research before they comment in order to produce the optimum discussion? And yet here you are, commenting on it. ;-), but a serious point: You don't actually live that way. Nobody does.

by ok_dad 3y ago

toast0 3y ago

Well, that doesn't really help, because Wikipedia says > A land value tax (LVT) is a levy on the value of land without regard to buildings, personal property and other improvements upon it. In my mind, the value of the land without regard to buildings, etc, is what you would pay for an empty lot. But you said the value is what you would pay for the lot with improvements. Theoretically, real estate property taxes I've paid have been divided into the land value and the improvements value (although it's mostly conjecture; the total value is all that matters and that generally approximates market value of the lot with the improvements, at least in CA and WA, where I've paid property taxes; although CA has Prop 13 that distorts assessments over time). Washington even states the land portion is assessed based on the best use, not the current use, unless it's in some special categories like farm, forestry, and open space. Now I'm even more confused. Which speaks to the GP's confusion. > I have yet to understand why people have made land value tax a thing. If the whole concept is so confusing, starting with the name, it's no wonder advocacy isn't effective.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago

Not everybody does a half-hour of research before every HN comment. Nor should they be expected to. LVT was named (I presume) by the advocates of it. If their name is misleading, don't blame the people reading it who are getting confused.

ok_dad 3y ago
A person can read about it in maybe ten minutes max, and if someone can’t even do half an hour of research, anyways, should they even comment? Do people have the right to a conversation simply because they read the article title yet have not read even at the surface level about that topic?
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  Well, how much research have you done on the quality of discussion board topics, and how much time people should spend on research before they comment in order to produce the optimum discussion? And yet here you are, commenting on it. ;-), but a serious point: You don't actually live that way. Nobody does.