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I wish the rust foundation could write articles like that, no corporate legal bullshit.

nindalf 3y ago
Weird. Here's the Rust Foundation annual report for 2023 (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/static/publications/annual-reports/annual-report-2023.pdf https://foundation.rust-lang.org/static/publications/annual-...). No "legal bullshit", it's short and to the point. Or here's another example. An interview they published with one of the developers whom they awarded a grant to. He worked on a Rust implementation of git and was awarded the grant to integrate it with cargo, the Rust build tool. (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/community-grantee-spotlight-sebastian-thiel/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/community-grantee-spot...) Or a technical article about artifact signing (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/2023-12-21-improving-supply-chain-security/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/2023-12-21-improving-s...) Do you still think that the Rust foundation writes "legal bullshit"?
- nbittich 3y ago
  Yes, they lost me in the trademark drama.
  - timClicks 3y ago
    That's a silly thing to get upset about. It was a draft proposal written by volunteers outside the Foundation.
    - nbittich 3y ago
      I don't think I'm the only one tho.
- AndyKelley 3y ago
  Thanks for sharing this. I would be interested to see a more detailed pie chart on the 2023 expenditures. Approximately half the expenses (1.5 million dollars) spent on "Membership & Admin". What does that mean exactly?
  - timClicks 3y ago
    I'll ask in Zulip if a more detailed breakdown is available. Inferring by exclusion from the other categories, it's likely the cost of the staff, such as payroll, travel and related expenses.
  - timClicks 3y ago
    Hi Andrew, as per https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/335408-foundation/topic/zigs.20foundation.20report.20thing/near/417512959 https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/335408-founda... To answer your question, the "Membership & Admin" slide covers: - General admin (software, bank fees, meeting rooms etcetera) - Legal and professional fees - Marketing services & tooling - Events (travel and sponsorship, primarily the latter) - Salaries, benefits, payroll taxes, & payroll service provider fees. - Membership and donor acquisition
    - AndyKelley 3y ago
      Thanks for digging in. I would certainly be interested to see the extra granularity next year as offered by Gracie Gregory in that thread.

Weird. Here's the Rust Foundation annual report for 2023 (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/static/publications/annual-reports/annual-report-2023.pdf https://foundation.rust-lang.org/static/publications/annual-...). No "legal bullshit", it's short and to the point. Or here's another example. An interview they published with one of the developers whom they awarded a grant to. He worked on a Rust implementation of git and was awarded the grant to integrate it with cargo, the Rust build tool. (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/community-grantee-spotlight-sebastian-thiel/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/community-grantee-spot...) Or a technical article about artifact signing (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/2023-12-21-improving-supply-chain-security/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/2023-12-21-improving-s...) Do you still think that the Rust foundation writes "legal bullshit"?

nbittich 3y ago
Yes, they lost me in the trademark drama.
- timClicks 3y ago
  That's a silly thing to get upset about. It was a draft proposal written by volunteers outside the Foundation.
  - nbittich 3y ago
    I don't think I'm the only one tho.
AndyKelley 3y ago
Thanks for sharing this. I would be interested to see a more detailed pie chart on the 2023 expenditures. Approximately half the expenses (1.5 million dollars) spent on "Membership & Admin". What does that mean exactly?
- timClicks 3y ago
  I'll ask in Zulip if a more detailed breakdown is available. Inferring by exclusion from the other categories, it's likely the cost of the staff, such as payroll, travel and related expenses.
- timClicks 3y ago
  Hi Andrew, as per https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/335408-foundation/topic/zigs.20foundation.20report.20thing/near/417512959 https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/335408-founda... To answer your question, the "Membership & Admin" slide covers: - General admin (software, bank fees, meeting rooms etcetera) - Legal and professional fees - Marketing services & tooling - Events (travel and sponsorship, primarily the latter) - Salaries, benefits, payroll taxes, & payroll service provider fees. - Membership and donor acquisition
  - AndyKelley 3y ago
    Thanks for digging in. I would certainly be interested to see the extra granularity next year as offered by Gracie Gregory in that thread.