Well sure. That's the default response: "It's not us, it's you". But I can't help thinking "We have dozens of dedicated 'agile leaders', several dozens more '

Well sure. That's the default response: "It's not us, it's you". But I can't help thinking "We have dozens of dedicated 'agile leaders', several dozens more 'agile coaches' who have various certifications, commitment from management and have hundreds if not thousands of people who have gone through multi-hour (at least) agile training. If we're still doing it so obviously wrong, maybe it's the methodology and not the people.".