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> Doesn’t Sootify also take a 30% cut to allow artists on their platform? No, but Spotify is known for happily starving artists (via their label payouts) to in

> Doesn’t Sootify also take a 30% cut to allow artists on their platform? No, but Spotify is known for happily starving artists (via their label payouts) to increase its bottom line. For example, Apple Music pays nearly double the royalties Spotify does.

crimbles 3y ago
The one simple trick to avoid here is to not be "an artist". Unless you make it big the only thing you're getting out of Spotify and Apple is possibly the easy of distributing a link to your music. I know a minor band with a few 10's of thousands of Spotify plays and they make 10x more money out of Bandcamp and gigs than they do out of streaming services. And they can't live off that so have day jobs anyway.
_aavaa_ 3y ago
It's easy for Apple Music to pay double the royalties when it doesn't have to pay a 30% cut to a 3rd party. It doesn't have to pay one on Apple's Store, and I doubt it pays one on Google's.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Spotify doesn’t pay a 30% cut to a 3rd party either. They don’t allow in app purchases in iTunes.
  - _aavaa_ 3y ago
    Okay. That isn't really much of a counter argument. They can't afford apple's 30% gatekeeping take so they lose out on a large number of potential customers.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      That must be why AppleTV+ is the number one video streaming company. It took Spotify over a year to implement streaming over the cellular Apple Watch after the API was introduced
jerojero 3y ago
Okay but this completely irrelevant to the argument at hand. If you want to choose apple music over Spotify for the sake of the artists. Good. Though I'd also he cautious, Spotify does have a much stronger market share than apple in this regard but precedent seems to indicate that apple will happily leverage their strong position to squeeze money out of people. These companies are all wanting to make more money, this money needs to come out of somewhere. Users, artists, developers...
- CharlesW 3y ago
  > Spotify does have a much stronger market share than apple in this regard but precedent seems to indicate that apple will happily leverage their strong position to squeeze money out of people. We have 23 years of history (Apple's digital music services launched in 2001) showing that's not true, so I'll take that bet. And the only thing that's changed about the App Store 30% cut implemented 15 years ago is that was halved for the vast majority of software sellers.

crimbles 3y ago

The one simple trick to avoid here is to not be "an artist". Unless you make it big the only thing you're getting out of Spotify and Apple is possibly the easy of distributing a link to your music. I know a minor band with a few 10's of thousands of Spotify plays and they make 10x more money out of Bandcamp and gigs than they do out of streaming services. And they can't live off that so have day jobs anyway.

_aavaa_ 3y ago

It's easy for Apple Music to pay double the royalties when it doesn't have to pay a 30% cut to a 3rd party. It doesn't have to pay one on Apple's Store, and I doubt it pays one on Google's.

scarface_74 3y ago
Spotify doesn’t pay a 30% cut to a 3rd party either. They don’t allow in app purchases in iTunes.
- _aavaa_ 3y ago
  Okay. That isn't really much of a counter argument. They can't afford apple's 30% gatekeeping take so they lose out on a large number of potential customers.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    That must be why AppleTV+ is the number one video streaming company. It took Spotify over a year to implement streaming over the cellular Apple Watch after the API was introduced

jerojero 3y ago

Okay but this completely irrelevant to the argument at hand. If you want to choose apple music over Spotify for the sake of the artists. Good. Though I'd also he cautious, Spotify does have a much stronger market share than apple in this regard but precedent seems to indicate that apple will happily leverage their strong position to squeeze money out of people. These companies are all wanting to make more money, this money needs to come out of somewhere. Users, artists, developers...

CharlesW 3y ago
> Spotify does have a much stronger market share than apple in this regard but precedent seems to indicate that apple will happily leverage their strong position to squeeze money out of people. We have 23 years of history (Apple's digital music services launched in 2001) showing that's not true, so I'll take that bet. And the only thing that's changed about the App Store 30% cut implemented 15 years ago is that was halved for the vast majority of software sellers.