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Jebus ... this is still being debated? Can we just acknowledge the complete an utter failure of managegment around this debate (I am management, btw) such that

Jebus ... this is still being debated? Can we just acknowledge the complete an utter failure of managegment around this debate (I am management, btw) such that we can't settle this one fair and square. We all have expectations and results from individuals. It doesn't take a Fed study to answer the question around an employees productivity. Either it's better, the same, or worse. I'm all for remote and hybrid work. Manage by results and what's the issue? Super strange. Get together every so often to catchup, do the human thing. I've had anecdotal evidence of firms falling behind because so many talented employees tell them where to go when flexibility isn't an option. Hold the line.

sokoloff 3y ago
My hypothesis is that the debate is difficult because of some mix of difficulty in precisely measuring productivity (which everyone can see) and in the mix of most tasks which work 100% fine remotely and some tasks that work better in-person ("the human thing"). (I'm also management and very much pro-remote.)
- LightBug1 3y ago
  Agreed. It's just so clear to me that role(s) flex between those set of tasks as need be ... and that should be clear to both manager and managed ... The manager shouldn't be a control freak about being in the office 5 days a week ... and the managed shouldn't be a whiny baby when asked to come do some human stuff ... somewhere in the middle is the promised land and it should't be that hard to find. Having said that ... I had an experience with a colleague recently that reminded that not much of this is based on reason.