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It's so interesting to see the range of experiences that fall under the definition of schizophrenia. In recent years I've seen more people who have this genre o

by qgin 3y ago

It's so interesting to see the range of experiences that fall under the definition of schizophrenia. In recent years I've seen more people who have this genre of schizophrenia (specific and realistic hallucinations, but not many other effects) posting online and sharing their experiences. My close family member has a different genre of schizophrenia. Less about specific hallucinations that you can logic away, more about an overwhelming feeling of doom and making connections between unrelated events that cause you "realize" that the world out to get you. Neutral events take on menacing vibes and mildly negative events take on terrifying vibes. On top of that, depression, apathy, catatonia. Hours of sitting and staring at walls.

karmakaze 3y ago
I've wondered about this. Can't those made connections be reasoned to be unwarranted by evidence, other than the feeling that it's true? From an outside perspective, there's no way the person could know that as they don't have any such information. My guess is the problem is that the motivation is to appease the emotion rather than against it with logic. When it really comes down to it knowing is a feeling, most of the time it's our feeling to trust logic/reason.
- qgin 3y ago
  This is probably 100% incorrect in every neuroscience way, but I've heard schizphenia describes as the metaphorical opposite of OCD. In OCD, you can turn a light off 10 times, see it happen with your own eyes, and still not feel like it happened in any way that will make you feel ok. In schizophrenia, the slightest suggestion that something could have possibly happened feels more true than anything you've ever felt in your life. Even if you didn't see it, even if it requires 3 hypothetical and unlikely jumps to make it true, it feels completely true and almost nothing can convince you otherwise.
  - karmakaze 3y ago
    Seems in both cases, what the person knows/believes to be true is in the feeling, which is what I was getting at.

by qgin 3y ago

karmakaze 3y ago

I've wondered about this. Can't those made connections be reasoned to be unwarranted by evidence, other than the feeling that it's true? From an outside perspective, there's no way the person could know that as they don't have any such information. My guess is the problem is that the motivation is to appease the emotion rather than against it with logic. When it really comes down to it knowing is a feeling, most of the time it's our feeling to trust logic/reason.

qgin 3y ago
This is probably 100% incorrect in every neuroscience way, but I've heard schizphenia describes as the metaphorical opposite of OCD. In OCD, you can turn a light off 10 times, see it happen with your own eyes, and still not feel like it happened in any way that will make you feel ok. In schizophrenia, the slightest suggestion that something could have possibly happened feels more true than anything you've ever felt in your life. Even if you didn't see it, even if it requires 3 hypothetical and unlikely jumps to make it true, it feels completely true and almost nothing can convince you otherwise.
- karmakaze 3y ago
  Seems in both cases, what the person knows/believes to be true is in the feeling, which is what I was getting at.