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we need better communication to get OVER waging war... we are all humans, we should not continue to wage war against each other for any reason.

dotancohen 3y ago
> we are all humans, we should not continue to wage war against each other for any reason That is easy to say when you have everything you need. People whose grandfather's land was stolen have no other recourse than to wage war against the occupation.
- janet-catcus 3y ago
  i dont think individual humans should own land
  - dotancohen 3y ago
    Even if they don't own it, should they not still fight for it? Is it not their right to murder the descendants of those who live on the land that their grandfathers once lived on?
    - janet-catcus 3y ago
      i do not think we should keep killing each other. no.
      - dotancohen 3y ago
        Then present a better option. Let us assume that I live in a country that your grandfather fled. Now you want to move to that country but the government will not give you citizenship. Nor did your grandfather not your father not yourself receive citizenship of the new country you are in, and you were even born in that new country (like your father before you). What options do you have other than infiltrating my country and killing me?
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Aerbil313 3y ago
This is and always has been the sentiment of a subset of the people who are rich and dominant, out of touch with the realities of the world.
- janet-catcus 3y ago
  so you are saying humans should wage MORE wars against each other?
  - Aerbil313 3y ago
    Wars are never waged just to wage wars, they are a means to an end: territory expansion, access to resources, religious reasons, whatever. It’s nonsensical to say humans should wage more or less wars. I get wars are unpleasant and cause suffering. Shooting someone in self defense is unpleasant and causes suffering too. But sometimes it happens to be the right thing to do.
    - janet-catcus 3y ago
      ok, you go killing your cousins in space then, i would prefer the earth to be a no-murder zone

dotancohen 3y ago

> we are all humans, we should not continue to wage war against each other for any reason That is easy to say when you have everything you need. People whose grandfather's land was stolen have no other recourse than to wage war against the occupation.

janet-catcus 3y ago
i dont think individual humans should own land
- dotancohen 3y ago
  Even if they don't own it, should they not still fight for it? Is it not their right to murder the descendants of those who live on the land that their grandfathers once lived on?
  - janet-catcus 3y ago
    i do not think we should keep killing each other. no.
    - dotancohen 3y ago
      Then present a better option. Let us assume that I live in a country that your grandfather fled. Now you want to move to that country but the government will not give you citizenship. Nor did your grandfather not your father not yourself receive citizenship of the new country you are in, and you were even born in that new country (like your father before you). What options do you have other than infiltrating my country and killing me?
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Aerbil313 3y ago

This is and always has been the sentiment of a subset of the people who are rich and dominant, out of touch with the realities of the world.

janet-catcus 3y ago
so you are saying humans should wage MORE wars against each other?
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  Wars are never waged just to wage wars, they are a means to an end: territory expansion, access to resources, religious reasons, whatever. It’s nonsensical to say humans should wage more or less wars. I get wars are unpleasant and cause suffering. Shooting someone in self defense is unpleasant and causes suffering too. But sometimes it happens to be the right thing to do.
  - janet-catcus 3y ago
    ok, you go killing your cousins in space then, i would prefer the earth to be a no-murder zone