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Not sure you can compare humans and AI this way. It is quite possible that humans have coping mechanisms that AI does not (yet?) have. Or to put it in your ana

Not sure you can compare humans and AI this way. It is quite possible that humans have coping mechanisms that AI does not (yet?) have. Or to put it in your analogy, If I feed my cat milk, they'll throw up. That doesn't mean milk is unfit for human consumption.

KeplerBoy 3y ago
milk is unfit for some humans though and I believe excessive AI interaction will come with it's own set of issues for parts of our society. I am of the AI companion startups, that shit can't and won't end pretty.
Almondsetat 3y ago
The example with the pig is because they are famous for eating basically anything without a hitch. If AI generated stuff is so bad you cannot train AI with it why would humans use it to train themselves (aka learn stuff)?
- gryn 3y ago
  well it not really a good analogy because pigs are very robust and have existed a long time and 'AI'(LLMs) are very brittle fragile embryos that can die from a sneeze. a more relevant analogy for llms is a bullshiter that don't know shit about anything but like talk about everything and they're good at that (talking like they know), I'm sure we all at least know or knew in the past someone like that. at a low enough percentage these bullshiters can thrive and get praise from other people but when there a lot of them and not enough of the real deal, well everyone is in trouble including the bullshiters since they no longer have who to mimic.
- lynx23 3y ago
  The actual question seems to be if humans are more resilient to errors in their training data. I would assume so.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    As a relative statement, I'm not sure if AI or humans are better or worse (or even "it depends on what you're measuring"), but in an absolute sense humans are also pretty suggestible and easy to influence, and it's only countervailing influences pushing in other directions that turn it into noise. This space is where the Venn diagram of marketing and genocides overlap.
mpweiher 3y ago
Just because I might have coping mechanisms to deal with awful stuff doesn't mean I want to subject myself to awful stuff.
raugustinus 3y ago
Maybe one should revise those thoughts. Apparently all of us will have issues with cow's milk. Some of us just have problems with even small amounts. At least this is what our specilist at the hospital explained to us.
- chottocharaii 3y ago
  The analogy is apt

KeplerBoy 3y ago

milk is unfit for some humans though and I believe excessive AI interaction will come with it's own set of issues for parts of our society. I am of the AI companion startups, that shit can't and won't end pretty.

Almondsetat 3y ago

The example with the pig is because they are famous for eating basically anything without a hitch. If AI generated stuff is so bad you cannot train AI with it why would humans use it to train themselves (aka learn stuff)?

gryn 3y ago
well it not really a good analogy because pigs are very robust and have existed a long time and 'AI'(LLMs) are very brittle fragile embryos that can die from a sneeze. a more relevant analogy for llms is a bullshiter that don't know shit about anything but like talk about everything and they're good at that (talking like they know), I'm sure we all at least know or knew in the past someone like that. at a low enough percentage these bullshiters can thrive and get praise from other people but when there a lot of them and not enough of the real deal, well everyone is in trouble including the bullshiters since they no longer have who to mimic.
lynx23 3y ago
The actual question seems to be if humans are more resilient to errors in their training data. I would assume so.
- ben_w 3y ago
  As a relative statement, I'm not sure if AI or humans are better or worse (or even "it depends on what you're measuring"), but in an absolute sense humans are also pretty suggestible and easy to influence, and it's only countervailing influences pushing in other directions that turn it into noise. This space is where the Venn diagram of marketing and genocides overlap.

mpweiher 3y ago

Just because I might have coping mechanisms to deal with awful stuff doesn't mean I want to subject myself to awful stuff.

raugustinus 3y ago

Maybe one should revise those thoughts. Apparently all of us will have issues with cow's milk. Some of us just have problems with even small amounts. At least this is what our specilist at the hospital explained to us.

chottocharaii 3y ago
The analogy is apt