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In all seriousness - has anyone noticed a lack of performance on their phone recently?
by buildbuildbuild 3y ago
In all seriousness - has anyone noticed a lack of performance on their phone recently?
- sccxy 3y agoYes, my iPhone 14 runs out of memory in safari. It never happens on same web app with 5 year old Samsung...
- boxed 3y agoIn general iPhones have less RAM than roughly corresponding Android device. This is because iOS apps on average take less RAM to run because iOS manages memory more tightly and Android uses Java which is very memory hungry. A web app though should be a situation where the memory usage will be roughly equivalent between the two platforms, so that seems reasonable.
- sccxy 3y agoSamsung A5 2017 has 3GB ram vs 6GB in iPhone 14
- MrBruh 3y agoI don't think comparing a 2017 phone to a 2023 one is a fair comparison by any stretch. If you want something more similar I would suggest the standard "Samsung galaxy S23" which has 8Gb compared to the IPhones 6Gb
- sccxy 3y agoHow it is not comparable? 2017 phone does NOT run out of memory, but 2023 phone model RUNS out of memory? Newer phone is worse.
- MrBruh 3y agoAh my bad, misinterpreted it
- pdpi 3y agoThat’s the same person who said that Safari ran out of memory on stuff their Android doesn’t. Their point wasn’t “iPhones have more RAM than comparable Android devices” (as you say, that comparison is entirely unreasonable based on those devices), it was “this is the RAM on the devices where I observed this behaviour”. If the iPhone in question has more RAM than the Android, yet still OOMs where the Android doesn’t, that’s a pretty strong argument that iOS isn’t magically thriftier than Android at managing memory.
- boxed 3y agoThose are the phones? Well then, that's weird!
- wiseowise 3y agoWas written by LLM trained on social media or what? That’s not how any of it works.
- sccxy 3y agoProbably, it does not make any sense. If 6GB RAM iPhone runs out of memory, then how can it be better at memory management than Samsung phone with 3GB RAM, which does not run out of memory. My problem is 16MB (8000*5000px) images in web browser which iPhone cannot handle. Most powerful phone every year, but 16MB is too much.
- boxed 3y agoI do development on iOS. This is exactly how this works.
- iknowstuff 3y agoThis unsourced SO answer says: > Unfortunately the memory limit on iOS Safari is rather low. It’s limited to 384MB on version 15, it’s lower on earlier versions, and it’s probably device specific as well. > As I said it depends on the device as well but it's always between 200-400MB Its a decision, not a hardware limitation. Helps keep web bloat in check, but it’s a worse experience for the user. I’m sure Apple’s happy to suggest a native app without such limits tho
- sccxy 3y agoApple/Webkit support said that 16MB image is gigantic and not meant for web. (Big image js viewer - zooming and panning) But no problem for very old low end android phone or IE11 in 10 year old laptop...
- pjmlp 3y agoNope, my phones are like my computers nowadays, they only get replaced when they break down. Even in terms of OS features, hardly anything that makes me feel like updating to the latest Android version, other than Google finally acknowledging Java isn't going anywhere and started following up on language updates (Android 12 onwards). Naturally something that OEMs aren't that happy about.
- NietTim 3y agoNo, serious question, how/when would I even notice that? I rarely do resource intensive stuff on my phone
- rsynnott 3y agoI went from an iPhone 11 Pro to 15 Pro recently, and four year's difference is definitely noticeable, but it's not a huge deal (honestly I upgraded mostly for 5G and the 120hz screen).
- qwertox 3y agoI just upgraded from a Pixel 3 to a Pixel 8, and while I've read that it's a slow phone, I don't see any performance issue. I also bought a 120€ tablet with a Helio G99 CPU and it's so much faster than my old Galaxy Tab S3 and Lenovo Tab4 8 Plus. To me it feels like we have reached the point where these devices are fast enough like it was when laptops matured, where performance was no longer an issue and upgrades were made when the device no longer worked or Microsoft made it obsolete due to Windows 11 not being allowed to run on it.
- bno1 3y agoI think the people who say the Pixel 8 slow are gamers. Even a cheap phone is fast enough for the vast majority of people unless they play 3D games on it.
- halJordan 3y agoIm not totally sure that someone coming from a pixel 3 has the experience necessary to determine what is fast or slow in this day and age. There could've been enormous leaps forward (there have) and just as enormous regressions (allegeded) that you simply missed.
- qwertox 3y agoI am also using a Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC and a Gigaset GX6 [0], but not as a daily driver. 8 tablets and 3 phones which are currently turned on, and two phones which are turned off (Pixel 3 and Moto G7 Plus). I don't think I lack experience. [0] https://www.gigaset.com/hq_en/gigaset-gx6/ https://www.gigaset.com/hq_en/gigaset-gx6/
- bpye 3y agoIsn't a big part of the strategy to have a fast core, do all the work quickly and spend most of the time in sleep. If you can do your work quicker you spend more time in sleep and save power? I don't really care about my phone being faster, but I would always take better battery life.
- davkan 3y agoRace to sleep!
- schaefer 3y agoAll CPUs idle at that same speed.
- snvzz 3y agoBut some enter/leave idle faster than others.
- Duanemclemore 3y ago"hurry up and wait" has never felt so good.
- wmf 3y agoThe Cortex X cores have probably gone past the sweet spot into the zone where they use more energy to go faster.
- jamil7 3y agoNo, but this is the way it goes, new software will be written that will push current phone hardware to its limits, and then we'll start the cycle over again.
- brokencode 3y agoNo, but I have noticed that modified smartphone processors (like Apple’s M series) are now faster and more efficient than traditional desktop and laptop processors. I welcome their introduction into Windows laptops. I’ve also noticed that there are emerging AI applications that cannot be run on-device by today’s smartphones. I would very much like an LLM Siri that doesn’t need a network connection.
- dannyw 3y agoMost Intel processors are still made on 10nm, which Intel deceptively calls “Intel 7”. Even the best 10nm processor can’t physically compete with a 3nm one on efficiency.
- andy_ppp 3y agoAll of these terms are largely marketing as far as I’m aware, yes Intel is behind in lithography but not by as much as the difference between 3nm and 10nm would suggest and I’m pretty sure the transistor/feature sizes are not 1/3 the size of Intel’s processes. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Intel 18A process and who builds chips with them. Intel could also rapidly regain the performance crown if these are good processes too.
- weebull 3y agoSo Ryzen? Same fabs and nodes as Apple.
- hajile 3y agoIntel 10nm is actually smaller than TSMC N7. It has also had two massive performance upgrades which should put it around and maybe ahead of TSMC N6.
- weebull 3y agoCalling Apple Mx "a modified phone" CPU is doing it a disservice. It's a synergy of mobile design with desktop design.
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