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Samsung's OS customizations and a lot of their apps are quite nice these days, I don't think there would be much of a point in such a toggle. Especially conside

Samsung's OS customizations and a lot of their apps are quite nice these days, I don't think there would be much of a point in such a toggle. Especially considering you can already change to a different launcher if you want.

Kuinox 3y ago
Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7, it was atrocious, people said it was great, the bloatware was painful, the gesture to open the apps drawer was conflicted with the gesture to open Samsung pay (which didn't worked with my bank), you can't disable Samsung pay, if you switch the launcher, it's still there. Searching the settings took literally 10 seconds. It's default behavior is to stay on while charging, the whole screen have the lock screen burned in now. My mom own a Samsung 10e, people also said "Samsung software isn't ad now", they rewrote their own clock app. It doesn't support having multiple timers?!? Worse, asking Google assistant to add a timer, reset the previous one. This is due to Samsung bloatware, the stock android clock doesn't have this issue.
- grumpyprole 3y ago
  While I might one day leave Samsung for the lack of Bluetooth codecs, in 2024 the UI is really very nice and I would miss it on many other "more stock" Android devices.
  - Kuinox 3y ago
    What would you miss in the "more stock" android devices ?
    - grumpyprole 3y ago
      Too many to list, but it's small things such as seeing how long a charge will take. Stock Android is certainly less refined.
      - Kuinox 3y ago
        > such as seeing how long a charge will take This is a stock Android feature. I just plugged in my Pixel 6 and it indicated in the lockscreen it will be fully recharged in 21 minutes.
- m1keil 3y ago
  I had similar feeling about Samsung in the past but I think it is quite better nowadays. But there definitely is some AOSP/Samsung duality you cannot escape. My current gripes with existing s23+ is usually one of following: 1. Some of their features are being offloaded to unknown 3rd party vendors (e.g call spam detection). 2. They really want you to install some sort of McAfee AV on your phone to get the "secure" tick. 3. They are usually about a month behind when it comes to Android security patches. 4. Phone comes pre-installed with crap.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Agree with 1,2 and 4. Too much privacy-invading external crap. But they're not really behind. I already got the 1 January Android security update a few days ago on my S23. Considering they need to do testing and possible modifications I don't think this is very slow.
    - denismi 3y ago
      I am still on the 1 November 2023 security update on my AU S22 Ultra.
      - wkat4242 3y ago
        Weird. Even my A52s which is both older and much cheaper (like a quarter of the price!) than your S22 Ultra is on 1 January 2024. It still gets timely monthly updates. I wonder if it's your provider being difficult here. The problem with branded (or sometimes even sold with contract) phones is that the carrier wants to meddle in the updates because they're afraid of issues on their network or something. And this can cause huge delays. I always buy my phones separately, mainly because I hate contracts so I'm on prepay always but having unrestricted updates is another big benefit.
    - m1keil 3y ago
      Hmm, maybe I was too harsh. I got the change log here: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-S916B/XSA/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-S916B/XSA/doc.html Seems like anywhere between one to three weeks. I think the auto update is a bit lazy. Had to force update on mine just now to make it get January update.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Many people in the Android ecosystem, me including, prefer OEM customization than whatever Material something gets thought out at the Googleplex. And I have owned several S generation phones.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7 To be fair that S7 from 2016 doesn't count as being from "these days" anymore, so your opinion is not up to date, as Samsung made pretty big strides in the last few years past 2020 compared to how it was when you last remember it with the nasty Touchwiz.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Yeah TouchWiz was horrible. OneUI is lovely and way better than native Google IMO. My S8 really became a much better phone with that update. Unfortunately it was also its last :'( For browser I'm Firefox all the way though!
  - sundvor 3y ago
    Totally. My S21 Ultra 512 with OneUI 6 with Android 14 is a very, very nice UI experience; got the update around the new year. I'm in love with the new drop down settings screen especially.
- WheatMillington 3y ago
  Your experience is well out of date
  - Kuinox 3y ago
    People also said this to me when I had a S7, my mom then got a S10e a year after it's release. It's UI was only slightly less worse than the S7.
- arunkumar9t2 3y ago
  They are industry leading in Android for quite some time. They often have innovations first that then Google generalizes in Android itself. For example, lock screen customization, secure folder, even work profile was first available on Samsung devices. Samsung literally contributed work profile (Knox) to AOSP.
  - Kuinox 3y ago
    What do you call "lock screen customisation" ? > even work profile was first available on Samsung devices Work profiles are available since Android 5.
LightHugger 3y ago
If you've never installed a custom rom like lineageos on a samsung phone and see your battery life triple or more, i can see having this opinion. But, no, the samsung 'experience' is not quite nice.

Kuinox 3y ago

Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7, it was atrocious, people said it was great, the bloatware was painful, the gesture to open the apps drawer was conflicted with the gesture to open Samsung pay (which didn't worked with my bank), you can't disable Samsung pay, if you switch the launcher, it's still there. Searching the settings took literally 10 seconds. It's default behavior is to stay on while charging, the whole screen have the lock screen burned in now. My mom own a Samsung 10e, people also said "Samsung software isn't ad now", they rewrote their own clock app. It doesn't support having multiple timers?!? Worse, asking Google assistant to add a timer, reset the previous one. This is due to Samsung bloatware, the stock android clock doesn't have this issue.

grumpyprole 3y ago
While I might one day leave Samsung for the lack of Bluetooth codecs, in 2024 the UI is really very nice and I would miss it on many other "more stock" Android devices.
- Kuinox 3y ago
  What would you miss in the "more stock" android devices ?
  - grumpyprole 3y ago
    Too many to list, but it's small things such as seeing how long a charge will take. Stock Android is certainly less refined.
    - Kuinox 3y ago
      > such as seeing how long a charge will take This is a stock Android feature. I just plugged in my Pixel 6 and it indicated in the lockscreen it will be fully recharged in 21 minutes.
m1keil 3y ago
I had similar feeling about Samsung in the past but I think it is quite better nowadays. But there definitely is some AOSP/Samsung duality you cannot escape. My current gripes with existing s23+ is usually one of following: 1. Some of their features are being offloaded to unknown 3rd party vendors (e.g call spam detection). 2. They really want you to install some sort of McAfee AV on your phone to get the "secure" tick. 3. They are usually about a month behind when it comes to Android security patches. 4. Phone comes pre-installed with crap.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Agree with 1,2 and 4. Too much privacy-invading external crap. But they're not really behind. I already got the 1 January Android security update a few days ago on my S23. Considering they need to do testing and possible modifications I don't think this is very slow.
  - denismi 3y ago
    I am still on the 1 November 2023 security update on my AU S22 Ultra.
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      Weird. Even my A52s which is both older and much cheaper (like a quarter of the price!) than your S22 Ultra is on 1 January 2024. It still gets timely monthly updates. I wonder if it's your provider being difficult here. The problem with branded (or sometimes even sold with contract) phones is that the carrier wants to meddle in the updates because they're afraid of issues on their network or something. And this can cause huge delays. I always buy my phones separately, mainly because I hate contracts so I'm on prepay always but having unrestricted updates is another big benefit.
  - m1keil 3y ago
    Hmm, maybe I was too harsh. I got the change log here: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-S916B/XSA/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-S916B/XSA/doc.html Seems like anywhere between one to three weeks. I think the auto update is a bit lazy. Had to force update on mine just now to make it get January update.
pjmlp 3y ago
Many people in the Android ecosystem, me including, prefer OEM customization than whatever Material something gets thought out at the Googleplex. And I have owned several S generation phones.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7 To be fair that S7 from 2016 doesn't count as being from "these days" anymore, so your opinion is not up to date, as Samsung made pretty big strides in the last few years past 2020 compared to how it was when you last remember it with the nasty Touchwiz.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Yeah TouchWiz was horrible. OneUI is lovely and way better than native Google IMO. My S8 really became a much better phone with that update. Unfortunately it was also its last :'( For browser I'm Firefox all the way though!
- sundvor 3y ago
  Totally. My S21 Ultra 512 with OneUI 6 with Android 14 is a very, very nice UI experience; got the update around the new year. I'm in love with the new drop down settings screen especially.
WheatMillington 3y ago
Your experience is well out of date
- Kuinox 3y ago
  People also said this to me when I had a S7, my mom then got a S10e a year after it's release. It's UI was only slightly less worse than the S7.
arunkumar9t2 3y ago
They are industry leading in Android for quite some time. They often have innovations first that then Google generalizes in Android itself. For example, lock screen customization, secure folder, even work profile was first available on Samsung devices. Samsung literally contributed work profile (Knox) to AOSP.
- Kuinox 3y ago
  What do you call "lock screen customisation" ? > even work profile was first available on Samsung devices Work profiles are available since Android 5.

LightHugger 3y ago

If you've never installed a custom rom like lineageos on a samsung phone and see your battery life triple or more, i can see having this opinion. But, no, the samsung 'experience' is not quite nice.