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I like that they use feminine "she" and "her" regarding their future employees. Knowing that they're actively trying to build a balanced, healthy culture is ve

I like that they use feminine "she" and "her" regarding their future employees. Knowing that they're actively trying to build a balanced, healthy culture is very attractive.

benjohnson 15y ago
For my company, brutal reality is that 90% of job applicants that are male. So for the narrow purposes of keeping my company diverse, I have adjust to view diversity of thought, method, and approach as more actionable than ensuring an even gentile-type distribution.
evincarofautumn 15y ago
I don’t. Both he and she are gender-specific and (may) call unnecessary attention to themselves. Singular they would be better.
johnhartigun 15y ago
I find it just weird and unnatural. This over the top political corectness is repulsive.
tomjen3 15y ago
I don't. I didn't have a high idea of Stripe to begin with, but I certainly can't respect a company that won't acknowledge that they are going to be hiring a lot more males than females and that most of the females they will be hiring will not be for developer positions but for support roles and maybe design. There are properly more transgendered people involved in development than there are females. So they should stop lying and be honest about it.
- sheena 15y ago
  I'm a woman and a developer at Stripe. I don't see how welcoming women as well as men into the engineering -- and every other -- team at our company can reasonably be called "lying" or "dishonest." No, we can't singlehandedly change the gender ratios in the valley, but we can and will try to make our hiring process as good and fair as possible.
  - tomjen3 15y ago
    I don't think Stripes hiring process is anything but fair. Given that, the next developer they will hire is likely to be male and there are more likely to be a higher percentage of females in the non-dev roles than in the dev roles. What I find dishonest is that they pretend this is not the case. They pretend that they are most likely to hire females. Which is wrong.
    - adrianhoward 15y ago
      It's not pretending. It's signalling. They're sending a strong signal that female applicants are going to be treated fairly - not that the next hire is likely to be female. To use a non-sex based example. My partner is wheelchair bound some of the time. Despite the theoretical legal requirements access to many places is a complete PITA. Having to phone up every time to find out whether you can get in or not, or whether we can actually sit together if we can get in, gets frustrating. When you get to the Nth occasion of visiting somewhere to discover that you can't get in because of some step or narrow door that nobody has considered it gets very annoying. Now - some venues have things like pictures of people in wheelchairs at the venue, or strong visible inclusivity statements, or some other strong signal that there is going to be zero problem with access. Guess which places we're more likely to visit - even if there are many other locations that are theoretically accessible, but don't signal it as well. What Stripe have nicely done is signal to every smart female developer that "we are open to hiring you". Judging by the interview experiences of my female friends this strikes me as a rather clever move. It's going to get them a stack of applications from talented women who might not otherwise apply. I'm sure that will more than outweigh the loss of any folk who see this as political correctness gone mad ;-)

I like that they use feminine "she" and "her" regarding their future employees. Knowing that they're actively trying to build a balanced, healthy culture is very attractive.

benjohnson 15y ago

For my company, brutal reality is that 90% of job applicants that are male. So for the narrow purposes of keeping my company diverse, I have adjust to view diversity of thought, method, and approach as more actionable than ensuring an even gentile-type distribution.

evincarofautumn 15y ago

I don’t. Both he and she are gender-specific and (may) call unnecessary attention to themselves. Singular they would be better.

johnhartigun 15y ago

I find it just weird and unnatural. This over the top political corectness is repulsive.

tomjen3 15y ago

I don't. I didn't have a high idea of Stripe to begin with, but I certainly can't respect a company that won't acknowledge that they are going to be hiring a lot more males than females and that most of the females they will be hiring will not be for developer positions but for support roles and maybe design. There are properly more transgendered people involved in development than there are females. So they should stop lying and be honest about it.

sheena 15y ago
I'm a woman and a developer at Stripe. I don't see how welcoming women as well as men into the engineering -- and every other -- team at our company can reasonably be called "lying" or "dishonest." No, we can't singlehandedly change the gender ratios in the valley, but we can and will try to make our hiring process as good and fair as possible.
- tomjen3 15y ago
  I don't think Stripes hiring process is anything but fair. Given that, the next developer they will hire is likely to be male and there are more likely to be a higher percentage of females in the non-dev roles than in the dev roles. What I find dishonest is that they pretend this is not the case. They pretend that they are most likely to hire females. Which is wrong.
  - adrianhoward 15y ago
    It's not pretending. It's signalling. They're sending a strong signal that female applicants are going to be treated fairly - not that the next hire is likely to be female. To use a non-sex based example. My partner is wheelchair bound some of the time. Despite the theoretical legal requirements access to many places is a complete PITA. Having to phone up every time to find out whether you can get in or not, or whether we can actually sit together if we can get in, gets frustrating. When you get to the Nth occasion of visiting somewhere to discover that you can't get in because of some step or narrow door that nobody has considered it gets very annoying. Now - some venues have things like pictures of people in wheelchairs at the venue, or strong visible inclusivity statements, or some other strong signal that there is going to be zero problem with access. Guess which places we're more likely to visit - even if there are many other locations that are theoretically accessible, but don't signal it as well. What Stripe have nicely done is signal to every smart female developer that "we are open to hiring you". Judging by the interview experiences of my female friends this strikes me as a rather clever move. It's going to get them a stack of applications from talented women who might not otherwise apply. I'm sure that will more than outweigh the loss of any folk who see this as political correctness gone mad ;-)