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I assume you refuse to use gcc, emacs, etc. because of their creator, refuse to use JavaScript anywhere on the web, never take an Uber etc.? Or is it just the

I assume you refuse to use gcc, emacs, etc. because of their creator, refuse to use JavaScript anywhere on the web, never take an Uber etc.? Or is it just the cases where it's convenient to virtue signal? I also find it ironic that you posted a Steve Jobs quote in a comment recently...

iwontberude 3y ago
Yes because that particular quote is funny to me, the idea that boot up time is equivalent to harming someone to death is low key hilarious.
Brian_K_White 3y ago
Is this about Stallman? I don't consider him to have done anything wrong, and so yes I sure do use gcc, and do at least prefer as little js as possible though I simply have no control over that, and in fact never use uber, and specifically because of the company, even though it would be convenient. Of course you can't do any of this 100% because the world is interconnected and interdependent and countless infinite things are indirect. But so what? You can still care and still try and still exert your own one-persons share of influence, even if it's only avoiding Amazon when you can, instead of just buying everything through them. That is worth doing and 100% better than not caring and not bothering, and the value isn't invalidated by being impossible to be absolute.
- iwontberude 3y ago
  Stallman did eat skin from his feet multiple times while on stage and may have asked people to serve him tea in an uncouth way multiple times. I do actually think about that when I compile from source and yes it bothers me a little but I soldier on.
  - krapp 3y ago
    That bothers you, but Stallman's decades of advocacy for sex with minors and the numerous accusations of harrassment against him don't? I'm not saying it should, but it seems you're either unaware of, or don't consider relevant, the most actually troublesome aspects of the man.
    - iwontberude 3y ago
      No you are absolutely right and I was being tongue in cheek. Yeah he is basically toxic waste in terms of association. It’s a shame his personal toxicity will have had a negative effect not just on people vulnerable to predation perhaps even directly but also it will have undermined the popularity of FOSS more broadly and taken oxygen out of the air for things that aren’t Richard Stallmans scandalous behavior.
    - Brian_K_White 3y ago
      He did not advocate sex with minors good grief. The mans worst crime is singing.

iwontberude 3y ago

Yes because that particular quote is funny to me, the idea that boot up time is equivalent to harming someone to death is low key hilarious.

Brian_K_White 3y ago

Is this about Stallman? I don't consider him to have done anything wrong, and so yes I sure do use gcc, and do at least prefer as little js as possible though I simply have no control over that, and in fact never use uber, and specifically because of the company, even though it would be convenient. Of course you can't do any of this 100% because the world is interconnected and interdependent and countless infinite things are indirect. But so what? You can still care and still try and still exert your own one-persons share of influence, even if it's only avoiding Amazon when you can, instead of just buying everything through them. That is worth doing and 100% better than not caring and not bothering, and the value isn't invalidated by being impossible to be absolute.

iwontberude 3y ago
Stallman did eat skin from his feet multiple times while on stage and may have asked people to serve him tea in an uncouth way multiple times. I do actually think about that when I compile from source and yes it bothers me a little but I soldier on.
- krapp 3y ago
  That bothers you, but Stallman's decades of advocacy for sex with minors and the numerous accusations of harrassment against him don't? I'm not saying it should, but it seems you're either unaware of, or don't consider relevant, the most actually troublesome aspects of the man.
  - iwontberude 3y ago
    No you are absolutely right and I was being tongue in cheek. Yeah he is basically toxic waste in terms of association. It’s a shame his personal toxicity will have had a negative effect not just on people vulnerable to predation perhaps even directly but also it will have undermined the popularity of FOSS more broadly and taken oxygen out of the air for things that aren’t Richard Stallmans scandalous behavior.
  - Brian_K_White 3y ago
    He did not advocate sex with minors good grief. The mans worst crime is singing.