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This doesn't make sense. If you could scale up limitless numbers of virtual Senior/staff level software engineers, the whole career would die assuming their qua

This doesn't make sense. If you could scale up limitless numbers of virtual Senior/staff level software engineers, the whole career would die assuming their quality of output was similar to the real thing. Sure maybe some career would come along to replace that, but I'm not seeing what that would look like.

expazl 3y ago
Human level means at the level of a human. Replace your 6 senior software engineers with 6 random humans, heck, replace them with 600 random humans. Let them lose on a problem and report back the results.
- tanseydavid 3y ago
  >> Human level means at the level of a human. At the same time it seems to ignore the automatic absence of certain human features that are clearly net-negative for the human when doing "level" comparison with the bots. I am thinking of things like: need for sleep or rest, need to eat, need to tend to relations and activities outside of work etc. When he calls it "human-level" he is ignoring this. Perhaps intentionally.
- keenmaster 3y ago
  Once ChatGPT reaches software engineer level of performance it will be trivial to get to senior software engineer.
- genman 3y ago
  Yes, it certainly means that there should be some structure in the work, but do we need 6 or 600 human level AI agents or instead all can be done by just 1 agent that would do the human intelligence level work just faster? Imagine the same problem that happened with computation. One human can compute, but slowly, now this can be scaled up by multiple human computers, doing organized task of computing - but even the best large scale human computing efforts can be simply replaced by a single electronic computer.
- mewpmewp2 3y ago
  Even assuming AIs wouldn't be able to do multiples of work compared to humans now, it would be a huge change for people not having to work.
mewpmewp2 3y ago
Agreed. Either he must have different definition of AGI, or he has different idea of what might be huge or small change.

expazl 3y ago

Human level means at the level of a human. Replace your 6 senior software engineers with 6 random humans, heck, replace them with 600 random humans. Let them lose on a problem and report back the results.

tanseydavid 3y ago
>> Human level means at the level of a human. At the same time it seems to ignore the automatic absence of certain human features that are clearly net-negative for the human when doing "level" comparison with the bots. I am thinking of things like: need for sleep or rest, need to eat, need to tend to relations and activities outside of work etc. When he calls it "human-level" he is ignoring this. Perhaps intentionally.
keenmaster 3y ago
Once ChatGPT reaches software engineer level of performance it will be trivial to get to senior software engineer.
genman 3y ago
Yes, it certainly means that there should be some structure in the work, but do we need 6 or 600 human level AI agents or instead all can be done by just 1 agent that would do the human intelligence level work just faster? Imagine the same problem that happened with computation. One human can compute, but slowly, now this can be scaled up by multiple human computers, doing organized task of computing - but even the best large scale human computing efforts can be simply replaced by a single electronic computer.
mewpmewp2 3y ago
Even assuming AIs wouldn't be able to do multiples of work compared to humans now, it would be a huge change for people not having to work.

mewpmewp2 3y ago

Agreed. Either he must have different definition of AGI, or he has different idea of what might be huge or small change.