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As someone from central-easter Europe - yes, please and thank you!

madwebness 3y ago
While understandable short-term - as someone from neither of those places: no, and bug off. But that's a short-term and emotional response. You want an arms race you'll get it. Eventually someone might press the red button indeed. Not too unlikely - and even then history will never learn the truth who really did it first (not that it matters). As someone else pointed out above - this is going to be a surprising century for y'all promurica folks. Or for the the posterity, at least. Won't even be China to be blamed. Might not even be a state. Not seeing where this train is headed (and not just with the AI) - this is the biggest issue with the overall comprehension of the larger picture. But opening your eyes and learning to make sense of the world around isn't something you can learn by being lectured on HN, unfortunately. It's a soothing feeling to have, though - this belief you're on the "good guys" team. Comfy. Also helps when you're arguing, doesn't it? OR when your passport allows you to travel to more places. Very nice indeed, but not a single a thought is usually given as to why, say, the latter, is the case. "Ignorance is our only ammunition". DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT hate America. It's given this world a lot of good things and personally affected my life through art, books, movies, music, language and other things. I used to visit, but I think I could've never enjoyed living there. I used to think it's the American movies that perpetrate lies about how life really is, but then when you see it, you realize the lies is anywhere but in the movies (even the bad ones). Lies not by the people... Just lies. Fake. Vanity. Madness. And the only true thing I found in America was my one and only love. For which I'm forever grateful.
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  I'm guessing based on the OPs location, there is a very real possibility of being overrun by Russia if it weren't for America(or NATO). So this isn't some person shouting "America is #1" without having any idea of the outside world, it seems like a very pragmatic preference based on the alternative if the preference wasn't available.
  - madwebness 3y ago
    May be. But words are words. We can't use deduction or metadata even to determine that. And who cares. It could've as well been written by a very real person.
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    That scenario is both prevented by and worsened by American primacy. The previous - and very possibly future - President openly espoused Putin-friendly propaganda and threatened to leave NATO. European dependence on American power worked for many decades, but may leave them in a very tough situation now.
    - oh_sigh 3y ago
      I am certainly no Trump apologist, but threatening to leave NATO was a classic "art of the deal" tactic to get some NATO countries to pay their fair/agreed upon share. If Trump really is Putin-friendly, then Putin made a massive mistake by delaying his major military actions in Ukraine until Biden was in office. I have no real proof of this but I suspect if Putin did delay his actions until Trump was out of office, it was because Trump was such a wild card that Putin might think that he could try to nuke the Kremlin if he didn't like what was going on in ukraine.
      - XorNot 3y ago
        Putin delayed his invasion because COVID-19 was rampaging through the world at that time, and Russia had no access to an effective vaccine while being well...Russia, so it went about as well as you'd expect for their military readiness. Disease killed more people on the frontlines in WW1 then weapons did, and it is the foolish military planner who doesn't try to avoid it (the Russian lines are currently dealing with an outbreak of Cholera in parts, which is another problem partly as a result of training quality - effective military's drill field hygiene practices because it's a direct contributor to combat effectiveness). EDIT: i.e. when there's a novel respiratory virus about, nothing will destroy your military faster then massing for an invasion in one place.

While understandable short-term - as someone from neither of those places: no, and bug off. But that's a short-term and emotional response. You want an arms race you'll get it. Eventually someone might press the red button indeed. Not too unlikely - and even then history will never learn the truth who really did it first (not that it matters). As someone else pointed out above - this is going to be a surprising century for y'all promurica folks. Or for the the posterity, at least. Won't even be China to be blamed. Might not even be a state. Not seeing where this train is headed (and not just with the AI) - this is the biggest issue with the overall comprehension of the larger picture. But opening your eyes and learning to make sense of the world around isn't something you can learn by being lectured on HN, unfortunately. It's a soothing feeling to have, though - this belief you're on the "good guys" team. Comfy. Also helps when you're arguing, doesn't it? OR when your passport allows you to travel to more places. Very nice indeed, but not a single a thought is usually given as to why, say, the latter, is the case. "Ignorance is our only ammunition". DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT hate America. It's given this world a lot of good things and personally affected my life through art, books, movies, music, language and other things. I used to visit, but I think I could've never enjoyed living there. I used to think it's the American movies that perpetrate lies about how life really is, but then when you see it, you realize the lies is anywhere but in the movies (even the bad ones). Lies not by the people... Just lies. Fake. Vanity. Madness. And the only true thing I found in America was my one and only love. For which I'm forever grateful.

oh_sigh 3y ago
I'm guessing based on the OPs location, there is a very real possibility of being overrun by Russia if it weren't for America(or NATO). So this isn't some person shouting "America is #1" without having any idea of the outside world, it seems like a very pragmatic preference based on the alternative if the preference wasn't available.
- madwebness 3y ago
  May be. But words are words. We can't use deduction or metadata even to determine that. And who cares. It could've as well been written by a very real person.
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  That scenario is both prevented by and worsened by American primacy. The previous - and very possibly future - President openly espoused Putin-friendly propaganda and threatened to leave NATO. European dependence on American power worked for many decades, but may leave them in a very tough situation now.
  - oh_sigh 3y ago
    I am certainly no Trump apologist, but threatening to leave NATO was a classic "art of the deal" tactic to get some NATO countries to pay their fair/agreed upon share. If Trump really is Putin-friendly, then Putin made a massive mistake by delaying his major military actions in Ukraine until Biden was in office. I have no real proof of this but I suspect if Putin did delay his actions until Trump was out of office, it was because Trump was such a wild card that Putin might think that he could try to nuke the Kremlin if he didn't like what was going on in ukraine.
    - XorNot 3y ago
      Putin delayed his invasion because COVID-19 was rampaging through the world at that time, and Russia had no access to an effective vaccine while being well...Russia, so it went about as well as you'd expect for their military readiness. Disease killed more people on the frontlines in WW1 then weapons did, and it is the foolish military planner who doesn't try to avoid it (the Russian lines are currently dealing with an outbreak of Cholera in parts, which is another problem partly as a result of training quality - effective military's drill field hygiene practices because it's a direct contributor to combat effectiveness). EDIT: i.e. when there's a novel respiratory virus about, nothing will destroy your military faster then massing for an invasion in one place.