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They are identified as the largest contributing factors to Holocene maintence[1]. The thresholds are boundaries where long-term Holocene maintenance no longer h
by kelseyfrog 3y ago
They are identified as the largest contributing factors to Holocene maintence[1]. The thresholds are boundaries where long-term Holocene maintenance no longer holds.
Just curious, is Holocene maintenance is important to you?
1. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458
- thriftwy 3y agoHolocene is very important for countries with harge coastal cities, since these may submerge. Iran and North Korea would likely not care much.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Iran and North Korea would likely not care much "Iran is vulnerable to the arable land equipped for irrigation, food imports over total merchandise exports, and the cereal imports dependency ratio while being resilient per capita food production and food supply variability" [1]. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9874189/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9874189/
- thriftwy 3y agoIt is higly likely that end of Holocene will eventually make climate in Iran better in terms of arability.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoCan you walk me through your argument? If it did, would you conclude that the negative outcomes experienced in other areas would be justifiable?
- thriftwy 3y agoWhy would Iranians care abour other areas? When was the last time the rest of the world cared about them in a good way? Weather will become tropical all over planet, including Iran, which is likely too arid currently.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoI always thought that the default was to care about fellow humans regardless. It's part of my own humanity. Sorry, but I don't think climate revenge is justifiable under any circumstance even this one.
- thriftwy 3y agoThe people of the ocean coasts has caused Holocene to end then promptly sunk themselves. Where's the revenge here? Just mind your own business.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoInteresting! What's your estimation of humanity's responsibility towards those who will be affected if Holocene conditions are no longer maintained?
- ianburrell 3y agoHolocene is a geologic epoch. It started at the end of last ice age. It contains human civilization but is not human civilization. Civilization, climate, and biosphere are all separate but related things. If you want to talk about maintaining them, each one has a name, or if you want a name for all them, come up with something new. The Holocene requires no maintenance beyond defining out the end. People are talking new epoch, Anthropocene, to include changes from global warming.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoDo you have even a guess what the intended meaning is? If you don't, the definitions are available in my previous footnote. Happy to hear your thoughts after you read them.