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Yeah screw the big guy! He's always trying to... checks notes... let us read our blood oxygen levels...

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Maybe if they would read blood oxygen levels legally, using IP they legally licensed, it wouldn't be a problem. Edit: change of tone
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > Funny how HN tries to save face for Apple at all costs. It doesn't. It's not you vs Big HN. Stop talking like it. It's just some people with different opinions.
  - JadeNB 3y ago
    > > Funny how HN tries to save face for Apple at all costs. > It doesn't. It's not you vs Big HN. Stop talking like it. It's just some people with different opinions. Did your parent (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39033027 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39033027) change their comment? It doesn't currently say what you quoted, only: > Maybe if they would read blood oxygen levels legally, using IP they legally licensed, it wouldn't be a problem.
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      They did.
- kstrauser 3y ago
  Alternatively, it blows my mind that the pulse-ox tech we’ve had in doctors’ offices since the mid 1970s is still that locked up in patents. I’m on Apple’s side on this. If it were a company other than Apple, I’d also be in that company’s side on this. Masimo isn’t a patent troll, but I don’t see how that $6B company can claim to own tech that’s been in wide use for several decades.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >Alternatively, it blows my mind that the pulse-ox tech we’ve had in doctors’ offices since the mid 1970s is still that locked up in patents. Because we aren't using 1970's tech anymore today. Pulse-ox tech improved a lot since then and that means more new patents. That's like saying "it blows my mind Audi's fuel stratified injection is locked up in patents because we've been driving cars since the 1910's". >In 1995, Masimo introduced Signal Extraction Technology (SET) that could measure accurately during patient motion and low perfusion by separating the arterial signal from the venous and other signals. >A noninvasive method that allows continuous measurement of the dyshemoglobins is the pulse CO-oximeter, which was built in 2005 by Masimo. >In 2007, Masimo introduced the first measurement of the pleth variability index (PVI), which multiple clinical studies have shown provides a new method for automatic, noninvasive assessment of a patient's ability to respond to fluid administration. It seems Masimo haven't just been sitting on their ass.

Maybe if they would read blood oxygen levels legally, using IP they legally licensed, it wouldn't be a problem. Edit: change of tone

robertlagrant 3y ago
> Funny how HN tries to save face for Apple at all costs. It doesn't. It's not you vs Big HN. Stop talking like it. It's just some people with different opinions.
- JadeNB 3y ago
  > > Funny how HN tries to save face for Apple at all costs. > It doesn't. It's not you vs Big HN. Stop talking like it. It's just some people with different opinions. Did your parent (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39033027 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39033027) change their comment? It doesn't currently say what you quoted, only: > Maybe if they would read blood oxygen levels legally, using IP they legally licensed, it wouldn't be a problem.
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    They did.
kstrauser 3y ago
Alternatively, it blows my mind that the pulse-ox tech we’ve had in doctors’ offices since the mid 1970s is still that locked up in patents. I’m on Apple’s side on this. If it were a company other than Apple, I’d also be in that company’s side on this. Masimo isn’t a patent troll, but I don’t see how that $6B company can claim to own tech that’s been in wide use for several decades.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Alternatively, it blows my mind that the pulse-ox tech we’ve had in doctors’ offices since the mid 1970s is still that locked up in patents. Because we aren't using 1970's tech anymore today. Pulse-ox tech improved a lot since then and that means more new patents. That's like saying "it blows my mind Audi's fuel stratified injection is locked up in patents because we've been driving cars since the 1910's". >In 1995, Masimo introduced Signal Extraction Technology (SET) that could measure accurately during patient motion and low perfusion by separating the arterial signal from the venous and other signals. >A noninvasive method that allows continuous measurement of the dyshemoglobins is the pulse CO-oximeter, which was built in 2005 by Masimo. >In 2007, Masimo introduced the first measurement of the pleth variability index (PVI), which multiple clinical studies have shown provides a new method for automatic, noninvasive assessment of a patient's ability to respond to fluid administration. It seems Masimo haven't just been sitting on their ass.